Curious: Can you see the background here?

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

09/22/2006 12:22:52 AM · #1

So this was my entry for Far Side. I'm not going to complain about my score, since I think the editing was just too dark and people didn't quite get that the deadpan expression is characteristic of Far Side characters, but after recalibrating my monitor, the background details outside the window seem to have disappeared. I'm curious as to how many people with calibrated monitors can see what's outside the window? I'm trying to figure out if I've done this whole calibration thing right, since I also suspect monitor calibration issues as the culprit for the other dismal scores I've been getting lately.

Edited to note that I processed it for the background details to be heavily shadowed, but not difficult to see.

Message edited by author 2006-09-22 00:27:39.

robs

Canon EOS R6 Mk II

09/22/2006 12:25:04 AM · #2

I can see the background - I believe my screen is calibrated okay :-)

tryals15

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II

Carl Zeiss Planar T 50mm f/1.7

09/22/2006 12:26:19 AM · #3

I can barely see it, and my monitor is calibrated.

faidoi

Pentax K10D

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

09/22/2006 12:28:28 AM · #4

Originally posted by tryals15:

I can barely see it, and my monitor is calibrated.

I can barely see it too. Spyder Express calibrated.

crayon

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

09/22/2006 12:28:55 AM · #5

BARELY VISIBLE.
Wouldn't have noticed it if you didn't point it out.

cryingdragon

Canon EOS-10D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

09/22/2006 12:29:11 AM · #6

carport, blue car in the 3rd slot, apartment building behind and it's quite visible for me

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Best-Buy Easy Point & Click

09/22/2006 12:32:26 AM · #7

Hmm... so it seems that my monitor is currently calibrated to slightly darker than the "barely visible" folks, since I have to really strain to see the barest hint of detail. I'm undecided as to whether or not this is problematic.

heathen

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

09/22/2006 12:36:39 AM · #8

pretty dark, but I can barely see it too. no fancy calibration software for me, but my monitor is calibrated after months and months...and months of trial and error.

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM

09/22/2006 12:36:55 AM · #9

Using my current monitor settings, this is what the photo was supposed to look like.

cryingdragon, if it's so bright that you can tell the color of the car to the far right, I think your monitor is really off. You should be hard pressed to see that there's a car there at all.

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RayEthier

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

09/22/2006 12:38:35 AM · #10

Items are quite visible on one monitor, but not on the other. Mind you, the presence of these items had no impact on my vote since I did not find them intrusive.

Ray

crayon

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

09/22/2006 12:40:22 AM · #11

Originally posted by photoheathen:

pretty dark, but I can barely see it too. no fancy calibration software for me, but my monitor is calibrated after months and months...and months of trial and error.

Mine is "butt calibrated". I "calibrated" mine when I adjusted my display for a game where they have this "highly visible, visible, barely visible" adjustment screen, LOL. Of course if you are hardcore enough you could calibrate using one of those display calibrating things.

Message edited by author 2006-09-22 00:49:54.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

09/22/2006 12:40:59 AM · #12

Originally posted by RayEthier:

Items are quite visible on one monitor, but not on the other. Mind you, the presence of these items had no impact on my vote since I did not find them intrusive.

Ray

Yeah, I get ya. I did want the items there, though unobtrusively, since the original had stars that I couldn't really duplicate and I didn't want the mirror to look totally detached from the car. I think that darker shots in general suffer quite a lot on DPC.

Delta_6

Canon EOS-7D

09/22/2006 12:42:16 AM · #13

Used adobe gamma to calibrate and I cant see a darn thing in the background.

rinac

Pentax K20D

Pentax SMC-F 50mm f/1.7

09/22/2006 12:42:43 AM · #14

Originally posted by cryingdragon:

carport, blue car in the 3rd slot, apartment building behind and it's quite visible for me

Ditto for me on the first one, and even moreso on your second shot. I can now see green grass as well. My monitor is calibrated :)

heathen

Best-Buy Easy Point & Click

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

09/22/2006 12:45:54 AM · #15

Originally posted by crayon:

Originally posted by photoheathen:
pretty dark, but I can barely see it too. no fancy calibration software for me, but my monitor is calibrated after months and months...and months of trial and error.

Mine is "butt calibrated" too. I "calibrated" mine when I adjusted my display for a game where they have this "highly visible, visible, barely visible" adjustment screen, LOL. Of course if you are hardcore enough you could calibrate using one of those display calibrating things.

huh?

Tamron AF 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di LD Aspherical IF for Canon

09/22/2006 12:46:18 AM · #16

Originally posted by rinac:

Originally posted by cryingdragon:
carport, blue car in the 3rd slot, apartment building behind and it's quite visible for me

Ditto for me on the first one, and even moreso on your second shot. I can now see green grass as well. My monitor is calibrated :)

It sounds very wrong to me that two calibrated monitors could show the same image at such polar extremes. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong, it just seems to miss the point of calibrating in the first place.

SDW

Canon EOS-60D

09/22/2006 12:48:46 AM · #17

My monitor is calibrated correctly by Adobe Gamma. I cant see anything outside the window except one blue dot between the window and the mirror.

Farside2.jpg I can see everything outside the window. I see a structure with a small double window at the bottom and a window above. A tree and limbs and what looks to be a railing between the car and background.

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crayon

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

09/22/2006 12:49:03 AM · #18

Just a friendly reminder (not targeted at anyone in particular):
As how large the voter base is on this site, we must be prepared to accept the fact that not everybody have their monitors calibrated or cared to do so. If you have a photo that margins at a barely visible region, be prepared to have voters that can't see them as you intended. A successful presenter is one that is able to reach out to most, if not all of his audience.

Message edited by author 2006-09-22 00:51:03.

cryingdragon

Canon EOS-10D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

09/22/2006 12:49:23 AM · #19

Originally posted by karmabreeze:

Using my current monitor settings, this is what the photo was supposed to look like. cryingdragon, if it's so bright that you can tell the color of the car to the far right, I think your monitor is really off. You should be hard pressed to see that there's a car there at all.

I don't know. I don't have any issues with anything on the laptop. In fact, I can often find discrepancies in color, especially blacks. Unfortunately, I can't calibrate it, as I can only adjust brightness, not contrast or gamma. I think it might just be because I have the Ultra-Bright screen on my Gateway laptop.

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heathen

Best-Buy Easy Point & Click

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

09/22/2006 12:53:22 AM · #20

it's also important to remember that not all monitors are equal, and in many cases "calibrated" is relative to the quality of the screen

Pug-H

Pentax K10D

Sigma 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical HF for Pentax

09/22/2006 12:53:35 AM · #21

Yep, I can see the background on this school (read: extremely unlikely to be calibrated well) monitor.

deapee

Kodak V803

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

09/22/2006 12:57:04 AM · #22

barely

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

09/22/2006 12:59:37 AM · #23

Originally posted by crayon:

It's a good reminder for sure, but also not quite what I was asking, just in case this is what you were getting at. I specifically asked for opinions from folks known to be calibrated for that very reason. You're right, dark images rarely do well here because the calibrated/not calibrated divide is rather large.

yanko

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

09/22/2006 01:00:20 AM · #24

I can see it. I see the car, the tree, the covered parking, the parking lines and the windows. Also I see the rest of the alien that's right outside the door.