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 09/06/2006 10:14:30 AM · #1
Well I got my first turn down, it was for noise, the suggestion was noise reduction software. So does anyone use it? What is out there and what is the best?
 09/06/2006 10:26:19 AM · #2
I personally use Neat Image and have been quite happy with it. Noise Ninja is another one I commonly see used.
 09/06/2006 11:59:39 AM · #3
I use Noise Ninja and am very pleased with the results.

I'm not sure where you applied, but some sites seem to have a reputation for rejecting pictures saying there is too much noise, but it will be accepted elsewhere.
 09/06/2006 12:06:35 PM · #4
Originally posted by pidge:

I'm not sure where you applied, but some sites seem to have a reputation for rejecting pictures saying there is too much noise, but it will be accepted elsewhere.


Some use it as an excuse too. I'd had perfectly noiseless images rejected with the NOISE excuse. I've also had noisy images passed.
 09/06/2006 12:21:14 PM · #5
I can beat that - I've had an image rejected with the reason "insufficient noise" :-)
 09/06/2006 12:23:52 PM · #6
Originally posted by ganders:
I can beat that - I've had an image rejected with the reason "insufficient noise" :-)


REALLY?!?
 09/06/2006 12:38:35 PM · #7
Originally posted by ganders:
I can beat that - I've had an image rejected with the reason "insufficient noise" :-)
09/06/2006 12:43:14 PM · #8
For those of you that are using CS2 (if any of you are), why do you preferre a standalone/plugin for noise reduction over CS2's noise reduction filter?
 09/06/2006 12:53:33 PM · #9
Originally posted by Kaveran:
For those of you that are using CS2 (if any of you are), why do you preferre a standalone/plugin for noise reduction over CS2's noise reduction filter?


I also use Neat image, but mostly because I don't know how to use the noise filter in CS2. I've been using CS2 for a couple of weeks. So if you have some tips PM me ;) it will be appreciated. LoL
 09/06/2006 12:55:29 PM · #10
Originally posted by Kaveran:
For those of you that are using CS2 (if any of you are), why do you preferre a standalone/plugin for noise reduction over CS2's noise reduction filter?


Does Photoshop Elements 4.0 have any noise reduction features?
09/06/2006 12:57:19 PM · #11
Originally posted by SecondCurtain:
Originally posted by Kaveran:
For those of you that are using CS2 (if any of you are), why do you preferre a standalone/plugin for noise reduction over CS2's noise reduction filter?


Does Photoshop Elements 4.0 have any noise reduction features?


Ive never used elements so cant say for certain. In CS2 however its under filters -> noise.
 09/06/2006 01:01:55 PM · #12
Originally posted by Kaveran:
For those of you that are using CS2 (if any of you are), why do you preferre a standalone/plugin for noise reduction over CS2's noise reduction filter?


Neat Image provides a much greater degree of control over noise than the built in filter. For a long time I just used NI with its default settings, but recently I have been playing with the settings to achieve a much finer degree of control and subtle yet much improved results.
 09/06/2006 01:29:22 PM · #13
Originally posted by Kaveran:
For those of you that are using CS2 (if any of you are), why do you preferre a standalone/plugin for noise reduction over CS2's noise reduction filter?


I use Neat Image pro plug in for CS2, it has much greater control of things, and no need to save the file move it to NI as a standalone, then go back to finish in photoshop. If your going to get one, get the plug in instead of standalone, makes workflow so much nicer. I tried noise ninja and Neat image, I preferred neatimage and bought it. As far as the noise filter in CS2 the only thing I ever use under that filter is despeckle, or dust and scratches, I dont like the noise reduction it does. In neat image I can download specific profiles for my camera and it works so much better. Hope this helps.

MattO
 09/06/2006 01:36:51 PM · #14
Thanks for the feedback modurn and mattO. Ill check into neat image.
 09/06/2006 02:23:29 PM · #15
Originally posted by MattO:
Originally posted by Kaveran:
For those of you that are using CS2 (if any of you are), why do you preferre a standalone/plugin for noise reduction over CS2's noise reduction filter?


I use Neat Image pro plug in for CS2, it has much greater control of things, and no need to save the file move it to NI as a standalone, then go back to finish in photoshop. If your going to get one, get the plug in instead of standalone, makes workflow so much nicer. I tried noise ninja and Neat image, I preferred neatimage and bought it. As far as the noise filter in CS2 the only thing I ever use under that filter is despeckle, or dust and scratches, I dont like the noise reduction it does. In neat image I can download specific profiles for my camera and it works so much better. Hope this helps.

MattO


Thanks Matto, I need to upgrade my photoshop I have been using 5.5 for too long. I have looked at neat and downloaded the demo. How can I see how much noise is in my photo? The one's that were rejected for too much noise looked clear to me, I guess I am just dumb on the subject. I used the demo and didn't see much change. What am I looking for?
 09/06/2006 03:13:04 PM · #16
Noise in digital photography has been likened to film grain. Its not technically the same thing but it does have a similar appearence. Increasing your ISO will increase the amount of noise you will have in your image. But it wont always be obvious. Noise will appear like speckles or a grain like pattern and will be most obvious in darker area's of an image. If you want to really see exaggerrated noise you can crank your ISO up as high as it will go and then take a picture in a darkened room or at night. Make sure you turn off any built in noise reduction features your camera might have.
 09/06/2006 03:19:47 PM · #17
Originally posted by bryantbus:
... I need to upgrade my photoshop I have been using 5.5 for too long.

I still use 5.0 : )

I have a Windows-based program called PictureCooler which is effective enough and easy to use. I have an old version which works as a standalone, but maybe there's a plugin available now. It used to be free, but I think it's still less expensive than NeatImage or NoiseNinja ...
 09/06/2006 03:27:18 PM · #18
I am strange ... I use kodak GEM
not as harsh as NI IMHO
 09/06/2006 03:27:25 PM · #19
I have NeatImage for CS on the Mac, but since I got the D50 I've used Bibble pro for RAW work and it has Noise Ninja built in.

Both are great, but the NeatImage plug-in for CS give you much more control.

Try them both. Download a bibble pro trail and try it out.

Also download the NeatImage demo and try before you buy.

good luck!
 09/06/2006 04:05:50 PM · #20
I use NoisewarePro They also have a freeware version that does all the functions, but only allows for a jpg save. You can get a really good idea of it's capabilities in the freeware version, which I used for quite a while.
 09/07/2006 12:19:38 PM · #21
Originally posted by jemison:
I use NoisewarePro They also have a freeware version that does all the functions, but only allows for a jpg save. You can get a really good idea of it's capabilities in the freeware version, which I used for quite a while.
I got the demo and I can see a big change in the photo qt with NoisewarePro more then neatimage. Maybe I just don't know how to make it work so good. Wow thanks a lot. I think NoisewarePro is for me, it works easy with photoshop. I can re-try in 30 days so I hope to get in this time!
 09/07/2006 12:59:34 PM · #22
Originally posted by bryantbus:
Originally posted by MattO:
Originally posted by Kaveran:
For those of you that are using CS2 (if any of you are), why do you preferre a standalone/plugin for noise reduction over CS2's noise reduction filter?


I use Neat Image pro plug in for CS2, it has much greater control of things, and no need to save the file move it to NI as a standalone, then go back to finish in photoshop. If your going to get one, get the plug in instead of standalone, makes workflow so much nicer. I tried noise ninja and Neat image, I preferred neatimage and bought it. As far as the noise filter in CS2 the only thing I ever use under that filter is despeckle, or dust and scratches, I dont like the noise reduction it does. In neat image I can download specific profiles for my camera and it works so much better. Hope this helps.

MattO


Thanks Matto, I need to upgrade my photoshop I have been using 5.5 for too long. I have looked at neat and downloaded the demo. How can I see how much noise is in my photo? The one's that were rejected for too much noise looked clear to me, I guess I am just dumb on the subject. I used the demo and didn't see much change. What am I looking for?


Can you post some examles of the ones that were rejected for too much noise. From what I read I think thats a general rejection that gets used rather its the real reason or not. When I open a photo in neatimage, it amplifies and pulls out the noise so that I can determine how much I want to leave in and how much I want to take. What I have found it that alot of what I do and dont do is personal preference. Some people love noise, others dont, Myself I like clean images as long as they dont go too far, and look fake. Play with things and see what happens.

MattO
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