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08/31/2006 08:33:03 AM · #1
I'm quite severely colour-blind, and I think sometimes it must be affecting the way I shoot photos, and the way I view thw work of others.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
08/31/2006 08:55:48 AM · #2
I'm also very curious about this. I'm red green colour blind, but the weird thing is that I only know this because i've had a look at the colour vision chart thingos, and it says i'm red-green. However, it's not something obvious, eg i have no trouble with red/green lights, telling apart different coloured items etc in general, tho sometimes i do get some other colours a bit confused lol... i can tell that their different, but sometimes i just can't name a colour (and usually these aren't red/green).

So far i haven't found its affected too much... but then again.. maybe i can use it as an excuse as to why all my photo's aren't ribbon winners :P

On a final note, are there any work arounds to red-green colour blindness in terms of photography? any learned responses to adjust to certain situations?
08/31/2006 09:01:56 AM · #3
Originally posted by diablo2097:

So far i haven't found its affected too much... but then again.. maybe i can use it as an excuse as to why all my photo's aren't ribbon winners :P


I'd never seen a red pool table before I saw this shot of yours :P

08/31/2006 09:02:01 AM · #4
My brother is a professional photographer... he used to shoot for his local newspaper, and is now a prestigous wedding photographer. He was classified as severly color-blind when we were in grade school. He has troubles with reds, browns, greens, and blues... but he has also always been an artist, and never expressed, to me at least, on his being color blind and it effecting his work... in fact, looking at his work, you would never suspect it... just dont ask him to dress his children!!!

I've looked at your photos, and i dont think you have anything to worry about. The way you view them might be skewed slightly if you have problems deciphering various shades, but you never know, it might produce something pretty cool!! :-) I noticed you tend to stay close to the extremes, either dark or very bright... but I think they work well...

I am certainly not an expert on this... where do you have issues with the colors? like i mentioned my brother had issues with reds, browns, etc... what do you see or dont see?
08/31/2006 09:17:58 AM · #5
lol, thanks for the tipoff konador :P

*goes plays with HSL sliders in photoshop... now where's the dam green gone :P*

hmmz... maybe i should move into b/w photography :P

personally what i find in terms of colours is that i can tell most colours. however occasionally certain shades of a colour can be confusing... but there doesn't really seem to be a pattern, and its generally not a problem differentiating red and green themselves. For example i accidently called something blue, which was actually purple, and i thought it looked pretty dam blue :P, but then if you hold up something obviously purple, it looks purple... Ok, not sure if that made much sense. But its basically just certain shades of colours... maybe i should test and see if its in particular areas of colour?....
08/31/2006 09:21:57 AM · #6
Originally posted by Konador:

Originally posted by diablo2097:

So far i haven't found its affected too much... but then again.. maybe i can use it as an excuse as to why all my photo's aren't ribbon winners :P


I'd never seen a red pool table before I saw this shot of yours :P




MattO

Message edited by author 2006-08-31 09:22:21.
08/31/2006 09:29:39 AM · #7
An artist friend of mine is always urging me to paint, using my skewed colour pallette. She thinks it'll give her insight into what the world looks like to a colour-blind person.

Might make for an interesting experiment.

My colour blindness covers red-green (which is ironic because I used to write for that show), and blue-purple.

My red vision is so bad that sometimes I look at something pink and all I see is grey.

I've developed several adaptations, as I'm sure a lot of folks have. I recognize traffic lights by brightness and position, rather than by colour. etc etc.

Message edited by author 2006-08-31 10:08:45.
08/31/2006 10:12:37 AM · #8
I think you guys should put a portfolio together of your "color-blind" shots... either right out of the camera or your own ideas of post-processing... tell us the colors you see, and then we can learn how you see things!!! :-)

hehe...
08/31/2006 11:16:14 AM · #9
Originally posted by Fromac:



My colour blindness covers red-green (which is ironic because I used to write for that show), and blue-purple.



That is so cool! I absolutely loved that show.

As far as color blindness goes. I've always wondered if an image could be photo-shopped to show a person with regular vision how a color blind person sees.

oops. I guess jeannybeany already had that idea.

Message edited by author 2006-08-31 11:17:11.
08/31/2006 12:08:49 PM · #10
Originally posted by jeannybeany:

I think you guys should put a portfolio together of your "color-blind" shots... either right out of the camera or your own ideas of post-processing... tell us the colors you see, and then we can learn how you see things!!! :-)

hehe...


Here is one I did. It looks fine to me, but I've been told that it has a greenish cast.

08/31/2006 12:49:17 PM · #11
Originally posted by 3eyedcrow:

Here is one I did. It looks fine to me, but I've been told that it has a greenish cast.



Greenish cast? What greenish cast?



Message edited by author 2006-08-31 12:51:27.
08/31/2006 01:57:51 PM · #12
Lol! Now that's funny.
08/31/2006 02:05:57 PM · #13
Originally posted by 3eyedcrow:

Here is one I did. It looks fine to me, but I've been told that it has a greenish cast.

I've been told the same thing about this one:



I find that the red-green defect is best described as an inability to pick up the red component of a mixed color: it's hard to tell the difference between blue/purple, light blue/lavender, pink/gray, green/brown, etc.

I didn't see the color cast in one of my earliest entries:

-- I spoke to the issue in a later callenge:

I'm pretty sure someone, somewhere, was working on software to adjust monitors to compensate for color-vision deficiencies, kind of like a super gamma correction, but I can' seem to find a link for that now -- I think it's been several years since I've heard any news.

If I have a question, I use Photoshop's densitometer (Info Window) to measure what a color is, rather than relying on what I see.
08/31/2006 02:27:38 PM · #14
I am color blind. As a result, I have to ask for help to be sure the colors in my edits aren't "goofy."

Without someone to ask, you might consider either shooting in B&W or doing a B&W conversion (w/ channel mixer or other editing tools). The B&W won't fool your eyes about color.
08/31/2006 02:42:42 PM · #15
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by 3eyedcrow:

Here is one I did. It looks fine to me, but I've been told that it has a greenish cast.

I've been told the same thing about this one:





Honestly, I can see the green tint to it... but i didnt notice an issue in the second picture... hmmm
08/31/2006 03:00:17 PM · #16
I don't have an issue telling colors apart while looking at them, but I've started thinking that I have a color blind memory. I have found that I remember some things either with no color at all or with color that is slightly (or not so slightly) off of what it actually is/was. I just write it off as not paying enough attention to the specific color while looking at it.

When editing, I tend to be very conservative about changing color and I think the above has a lot to do with it.

David
08/31/2006 03:10:04 PM · #17
Originally posted by Dr.Confuser:

I am color blind. As a result, I have to ask for help to be sure the colors in my edits aren't "goofy."

Without someone to ask, you might consider either shooting in B&W or doing a B&W conversion (w/ channel mixer or other editing tools). The B&W won't fool your eyes about color.

I ask my son all the time : )

My colors sometimes get goofy because I edit for the tonal values, and miss the difference in hue. Then again, sometimes it's not an accident ... : )

08/31/2006 05:03:03 PM · #18
all you non-colour blind people might be interested in this website:

//www.vischeck.com/

Just stumbled across it last night, and basically it apparently corrects any image to show you what a colour blind person would see. It's actually kinda cool, because on their example page, i swear their "original" and "colour blind" version looks exactly the same lol :P so maybe it actually works... any other red-greeners wanna confirm that?

Message edited by author 2006-08-31 17:03:13.
08/31/2006 05:11:28 PM · #19
Originally posted by diablo2097:

all you non-colour blind people might be interested in this website:

//www.vischeck.com/

Just stumbled across it last night, and basically it apparently corrects any image to show you what a colour blind person would see. It's actually kinda cool, because on their example page, i swear their "original" and "colour blind" version looks exactly the same lol :P so maybe it actually works... any other red-greeners wanna confirm that?


That is really cool! Thanks for sharing the link.
08/31/2006 05:32:39 PM · #20
I ran the pink pavement shot of GeneralE's through that site, and that is incredible. I can't imagine trying to attempt photography, major props to all you guys who do!
08/31/2006 05:34:56 PM · #21
Originally posted by LERtastic:

I ran the pink pavement shot of GeneralE's through that site, and that is incredible. I can't imagine trying to attempt photography, major props to all you guys who do!

What did it look like to you?
08/31/2006 05:51:13 PM · #22
That's pretty wild. The corrected version looks normal.
08/31/2006 06:51:23 PM · #23
Originally posted by greatandsmall:

That's pretty wild. The corrected version looks normal.


Yea, both types of red-green looked pretty normal. Didn't try the other one.
08/31/2006 07:01:27 PM · #24
Originally posted by diablo2097:

all you non-colour blind people might be interested in this website:

//www.vischeck.com/

Just stumbled across it last night, and basically it apparently corrects any image to show you what a colour blind person would see. It's actually kinda cool, because on their example page, i swear their "original" and "colour blind" version looks exactly the same lol :P so maybe it actually works... any other red-greeners wanna confirm that?


Side by side I can see the differences, but if there were some space between them I couldn't.
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