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04/30/2002 03:56:24 PM · #1 |
I am having some trouble understanding what it takes to make a GOOD photo. I get so many diferent comments,such as: why is the (_______) in the back/fore ground. why isn't there a back/foreground. why is this or that in/not in focus. this looks like a setup. etc. What really makes a photo good and distinguishes it from a 'snapshot'? What's wrong with a snapshot, if it pleases you? Where is my nurse?
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04/30/2002 04:10:38 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by David Ey: I am having some trouble understanding what it takes to make a GOOD photo. I get so many diferent comments,such as: why is the (_______) in the back/fore ground. why isn't there a back/foreground. why is this or that in/not in focus. this looks like a setup. etc. What really makes a photo good and distinguishes it from a 'snapshot'? What's wrong with a snapshot, if it pleases you? Where is my nurse
I think the thing that differentiates a snapshot and a photograph is the amount of thought/ intent that went into the framing/ composition, choice of aperture/ shutter focal point etc.
Maybe if you had specific pictures you wanted to discuss it would be good to embed it on the page using the img /img tags and see if you can't get some interesting discussion going ? It's hard to say 'what is good' in general, but I'm sure we disect particular pictures for what is good and bad (in our opinion obviously) |
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04/30/2002 04:13:45 PM · #3 |
As an example, for your last transition entry,
why did you put the egg on the left and the chick on the right ?
Why are they both in the middle, rather than say one higher than the other, or more diagonally arranged ?
What motivated you to light it in the way that you did ? Was there a particular idea behind having a dark background, as opposed to something much lighter ?
Where all of these things incidental, or was there a specific purpose ?
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04/30/2002 04:18:08 PM · #4 |
David, I feel the same way. You take the best photo you can take, you get compliments from your friends, then you post it and there is always a bunch of people saying you should have taken the photo a different way or something along those lines. My least favorite comment of all (not on this site so far) is "why?". Call it "Beginner's Blues". |
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04/30/2002 04:18:57 PM · #5 |
Thanks Gordon, I don't know how to do that yet. I was not refering to any particular shot of mine (well maybe a little bit). I read a lot of coments made about other photos that interest me and I see so many conflicting statements. |
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04/30/2002 04:24:27 PM · #6 |
Don't try and figure it out David you'll go mad! errhaaah madder!
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04/30/2002 04:24:51 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by David Ey: I am having some trouble understanding what it takes to make a GOOD photo..... Where is my nurse
What looks great to you will be viewed entirely differently by someone else who also believes rightly so that their image is also the bee's knees. Your photo has to be technically perfect in exposure, composition, and spectacularly interesting but must not appear setup or contrived. Damnit, we must have the same nurse!
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04/30/2002 04:56:55 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by David Ey: Thanks Gordon, I don't know how to do that yet. I was not refering to any particular shot of mine (well maybe a little bit). I read a lot of coments made about other photos that interest me and I see so many conflicting statements.
David, I wasn't trying to pick on a particular picture of yours and say whether it was good or bad. I think the difference between it being a snaphot and being a photograph is having at least considered the kinds of questions that I asked. I don't even particularly think there is a right or wrong answer, other than 'I didn't consider it at all'
Answering the 'why?' before you press the shutter, rather than when someone asks you in a comment is part of the step towards not having them ask it at all.
Oh and of course 'you can't please all of the people all of the time' Shoot what you want, because you want to. But know why you are shooting it like you are and try to be aware of what is or isn't in the shot, and why you put it there or removed it.
The most obvious 'snapshot' symptom of this is lights/ trees etc growing out of people's heads. All of the focus was on the foreground, no thought was given to the background or the whole picture, it was just snapped.
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04/30/2002 05:04:58 PM · #9 |
once again im not going to read everything posted here. if im repeating, ignore me. how about you ignore all the comments about the picture. if you like the picture, whats wrong with that? if you cant find out anything specifically wrong with it before someone else tells you, there isnt a problem |
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04/30/2002 05:38:08 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by clay: once again im not going to read everything posted here. if im repeating, ignore me. how about you ignore all the comments about the picture. if you like the picture, whats wrong with that? if you cant find out anything specifically wrong with it before someone else tells you, there isnt a problem
My comment on your transitions submission below; Some people are gonna slag you! - they may not know what a tranisitor is or ever heard of one. Others will comment on the blur as accidental- be ready for these unjust crits.
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04/30/2002 05:49:02 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by vin rigby:
My comment on your transitions submission below; Some people are gonna slag you! - they may not know what a tranisitor is or ever heard of one. Others will comment on the blur as accidental- be ready for these unjust crits.
The thing is, the picture doesn't even show transistors, it shows capacitors. The silk screen on the PCB shows every one of them labeled with a C, typically used to denote a capacitor, they are in orange packages, only used for ceramic type capacitors, and they only have two wires. Transistors don't get fabricated in packages like that, they have 3 legs, not in that configuration and wouldn't be marked on the board with a C.
So he probably got some justified crits as well.
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04/30/2002 05:58:45 PM · #12 |
david man, when you throw all the pictures together on a page like they do with a contest, they dont even have any context anymore. anything can be a GOOD photo, as long it's the right thing at the right place at the right time.
Originally posted by David Ey: I am having some trouble understanding what it takes to make a GOOD photo. I get so many diferent comments,such as: why is the (_______) in the back/fore ground. why isn't there a back/foreground. why is this or that in/not in focus. this looks like a setup. etc. What really makes a photo good and distinguishes it from a 'snapshot'? What's wrong with a snapshot, if it pleases you? Where is my nurse
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04/30/2002 06:05:14 PM · #13 |
after you commented that theyre capacitors, i responded that they have a third connector coming out of the bottom. i looked over the manual for anything labeled t or k and couldnt find it on the diagram, so i just looked for three or more connectors. to the one person who it mattered to im pretty sure he got it. as to the blurred aspect: "x86" was slightly blurred, so i shook my camera hard. |
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04/30/2002 06:46:35 PM · #14 |
Clay Clay Clay, NEVER shake your camera. You might turn its liver over. Thanks folks. ya'll make alot of sense. We won't worry so much anymore and will be happy with me 3. Nurse, another beer!
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04/30/2002 07:21:42 PM · #15 |
if it broke id eventually be able to buy another one. im more of a bitch about my car than i am about my camera. theres a lot more time, blood, and money into one than the other |
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04/30/2002 07:32:30 PM · #16 |
camera livers are tasty, esp cooked over an open fire when camping ...
Originally posted by David Ey: Clay Clay Clay, NEVER shake your camera. You might turn its liver over. Thanks folks. ya'll make alot of sense. We won't worry so much anymore and will be happy with me 3. Nurse, another beer!
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05/01/2002 02:51:13 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by GordonMcGregor: Originally posted by vin rigby: [i] My comment on your transitions submission below; Some people are gonna slag you! - they may not know what a tranisitor is or ever heard of one. Others will comment on the blur as accidental- be ready for these unjust crits.
The thing is, the picture doesn't even show transistors, it shows capacitors. The silk screen on the PCB shows every one of them labeled with a C, typically used to denote a capacitor, they are in orange packages, only used for ceramic type capacitors, and they only have two wires. Transistors don't get fabricated in packages like that, they have 3 legs, not in that configuration and wouldn't be marked on the board with a C.
So he probably got some justified crits as well. [/i]
But how many of our voters have your specialised knowledge Gordon to allow examination to such an extreme, I certainly don't have this knowledge but did recognise a printed circuit board with components on it that suggested the existence of the challenge link to transistors. I also presumed the camera movement was so obvious that the photographer was suggesting the movement of electrical 'flow' throught the board. The comment I made is borne out by the majority of the 51 comments which resulted.
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