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 01/27/2007 01:19:25 PM · #201
Unfortunately most of my older shots are now all archived, but here are two that were in my portfolio.





I guess that I made the wrong decision on the sky in Best Of... any other suggestions?

Lee
 01/27/2007 01:33:13 PM · #202
Originally posted by marksimms:
WOW, major element removal in this image.. surprised this didnt get DQ'd!

Originally posted by idnic:
I hesitated to post this because I hate showing unfinished work, my clients never see unprocessed images... but... for the sake of discussion:


was the original image used for this:


I typically don't do NEARLY as much editing on my shots, but I really wanted this image to work, so I was willing to do what it took. Obviously, the first thing I did was to crop (the gray box shows where). Then I painstakingly cloned the black backrop into the places where it just wasn't big enough. Next, and also not easy, I cloned the logo off the shirt of the guy on the right. After that, I had a clean image to work with and the rest was just normal editing. The dumb thing is I did a fast & sloppy job the first time and had to do it all over again for the challenge entry.


Personally I'm not all that surprised. Most of the stuff on the left is cropped out and if I was describing the photo I wouldn't mention the floor under his foot or the little bit of muslin showing. I think the crop really took most of it out and you can crop out whatever you want.
 01/27/2007 06:22:06 PM · #203
Hmmm I just got the "Your image has been validated" email, again. I got one 3 days ago, and just now another. Did my image get reviewed again? Could it be DQd after it's been validated? I'm confused, but happy!
01/27/2007 08:02:42 PM · #204
Originally posted by scarbrd:
Entry


Original


This is far better than anything I've gotten from Photomatix. The question is what this does to the noise level. Is it only pretty at 640 pixels or could you blown it up big?
 01/27/2007 08:15:12 PM · #205
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by scarbrd:
Entry


Original


This is far better than anything I've gotten from Photomatix. The question is what this does to the noise level. Is it only pretty at 640 pixels or could you blown it up big?


I think I am going to order a large print from DPC Prints just to see. I'll let you know.
 01/27/2007 08:22:44 PM · #206
Originally posted by KarenNfld:
Originally posted by marksimms:
WOW, major element removal in this image.. surprised this didnt get DQ'd!


Yeah, apparently with the new advanced rules major element removal isn't such a big deal anymore.

But I bet if I did something like that I'd get DQ'd
 01/27/2007 08:52:54 PM · #207
Oh yeah, I've been waiting to show these off!

Before...............................After
(basic aditing)

Before...............................After

this one is actually an outtake of my entry, but you get the point :)
 01/27/2007 09:24:24 PM · #208
Originally posted by Blue Moon:
Oh yeah, I've been waiting to show these off!

Before...............................After
(basic aditing)


Ah so you shot that in a car. Were you also pulling a BradP, i.e. driving at the time?
 01/27/2007 10:14:24 PM · #209
Originally posted by Megatherian:
Originally posted by marksimms:
WOW, major element removal in this image.. surprised this didnt get DQ'd!

Originally posted by idnic:
I hesitated to post this because I hate showing unfinished work, my clients never see unprocessed images... but... for the sake of discussion:


was the original image used for this:


I typically don't do NEARLY as much editing on my shots, but I really wanted this image to work, so I was willing to do what it took. Obviously, the first thing I did was to crop (the gray box shows where). Then I painstakingly cloned the black backrop into the places where it just wasn't big enough. Next, and also not easy, I cloned the logo off the shirt of the guy on the right. After that, I had a clean image to work with and the rest was just normal editing. The dumb thing is I did a fast & sloppy job the first time and had to do it all over again for the challenge entry.


Personally I'm not all that surprised. Most of the stuff on the left is cropped out and if I was describing the photo I wouldn't mention the floor under his foot or the little bit of muslin showing. I think the crop really took most of it out and you can crop out whatever you want.


looks like a fairly major element removal to me. i seem to remember a Dr. Jones photo that was DQ'd for a light stand being cloned out. (i may be wrong...someone correct me if i am.)
01/27/2007 10:18:16 PM · #210
Originally posted by sher9204:
looks like a fairly major element removal to me. i seem to remember a Dr. Jones photo that was DQ'd for a light stand being cloned out. (i may be wrong...someone correct me if i am.)


You are right. Doc's shot contained a girl and a light and he removed the light. That is one of only 2 objects in the image, so was considered major element, I remember the discussion. I think this one passed because as you see once I cropped it only left a bit of muslin and floor in about 1/10th of the background and didn't even involve foreground items and so wasn't "major". That's my guess, I haven't heard SC explanation.

Edit spelling

Message edited by author 2007-01-27 22:20:17.
 01/27/2007 11:04:24 PM · #211
guys, the picture wasn't DQ's so get over it. This thread is on before and after and is much more fun if we keep it that way. If you want to comment otherwise then start another thread!

Before:



After:

01/27/2007 11:40:15 PM · #212
Originally posted by idnic:
Doc's shot contained a girl and a light and he removed the light. That is one of only 2 objects in the image, so was considered major element, I remember the discussion. I think this one passed because as you see once I cropped it only left a bit of muslin and floor in about 1/10th of the background and didn't even involve foreground items and so wasn't "major".


IMO that's basically it, although you were right on the borderline of legality. As cropped, a basic description of the photo would be "people on a black background," and that doesn't change before or after. There's a non-descript white shape on the right side, but it's more of a minor distraction than "a model and a light."
 01/27/2007 11:43:49 PM · #213
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by idnic:
Doc's shot contained a girl and a light and he removed the light. That is one of only 2 objects in the image, so was considered major element, I remember the discussion. I think this one passed because as you see once I cropped it only left a bit of muslin and floor in about 1/10th of the background and didn't even involve foreground items and so wasn't "major".


IMO that's basically it, although you were right on the borderline of legality. As cropped, a basic description of the photo would be "people on a black background," and that doesn't change before or after. There's a non-descript white shape on the right side, but it's more of a minor distraction than "a model and a light."


It's too bad he didn't leave the light in because nobody would have noticed.
 01/27/2007 11:46:13 PM · #214
Originally posted by yanko:
It's too bad he didn't leave the light in because nobody would have noticed.


Agreed- I don't think it would have affected his score much.
 01/27/2007 11:48:14 PM · #215
Thanks for the clarification, Shannon. I knew it was close, but the idea was worth taking the chance.

01/27/2007 11:58:46 PM · #216
As penance for getting off track, I'll post one of my most-Photoshopped entries. Quite a difference from shot to final!

01/28/2007 12:07:40 AM · #217
Before and after


When I get a chance I'll post my cat photo as that was a major transformation.
01/28/2007 12:12:08 AM · #218
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by Blue Moon:
Oh yeah, I've been waiting to show these off!

Before...............................After
(basic aditing)


Ah so you shot that in a car. Were you also pulling a BradP, i.e. driving at the time?


Haha, no I was in the passenger's seat that time.
But on this occasion I was driving. You watch, headlines will say "Young Amateur Photographer Drives Car Over Cliff to Get a Better Sunset Shot!"...pictures on page 2 : P

Before...............................After


Message edited by author 2007-01-28 00:14:16.
 01/28/2007 12:29:27 AM · #219
Originally posted by idnic:
Originally posted by sher9204:
looks like a fairly major element removal to me. i seem to remember a Dr. Jones photo that was DQ'd for a light stand being cloned out. (i may be wrong...someone correct me if i am.)


You are right. Doc's shot contained a girl and a light and he removed the light. That is one of only 2 objects in the image, so was considered major element, I remember the discussion. I think this one passed because as you see once I cropped it only left a bit of muslin and floor in about 1/10th of the background and didn't even involve foreground items and so wasn't "major". That's my guess, I haven't heard SC explanation.

Edit spelling


gotcha. it's hard to tell from the small size just how much background you had to clone. no offense meant. :)
 01/28/2007 12:52:31 AM · #220
Gosh, not offended. This one was an extreme before/after, that is why I thought it might be helpful in this thread. We have a lot of tools at our disposal and learning how to use them and how much is too much is part of the process.
01/28/2007 01:06:20 AM · #221
Ok, another attemp to get back on thread subject....

became
01/28/2007 02:30:14 AM · #222
My two highest scores:




01/31/2007 12:25:24 AM · #223
origianl
entrance entry
 01/31/2007 12:44:34 AM · #224




Message edited by author 2007-01-31 00:49:21.
 01/31/2007 12:23:44 PM · #225
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