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07/30/2006 10:15:11 PM · #26
I just purchased the Sony DSLR-A100.. So far it seems to be a really sweet camera. Plus my Minolta Maxxum lense's fit the camera. Only feature I'm not crazy about so far is the battery. It's a special Sony battery. It would be nice to be able to use standard double aa Lithium batteries I think. Oh well..So far the pictures are great. The price wasn't too bad either.
07/30/2006 10:47:31 PM · #27
How's the noise?
07/30/2006 10:51:53 PM · #28
Originally posted by beebee381:

I just purchased the Sony DSLR-A100.. So far it seems to be a really sweet camera. Plus my Minolta Maxxum lense's fit the camera. Only feature I'm not crazy about so far is the battery. It's a special Sony battery. It would be nice to be able to use standard double aa Lithium batteries I think. Oh well..So far the pictures are great. The price wasn't too bad either.


I think those are Info-Lithium batteries - they tell you exactly how many shots you can take before it runs out of juice. Pretty sweet.
07/31/2006 08:04:39 AM · #29
Originally posted by beebee381:

I just purchased the Sony DSLR-A100.. Only feature I'm not crazy about so far is the battery. It's a special Sony battery.


The KM 5D (and, I assume, 7D) also used special Minolta batteries - so for those of us already using the KM system, this isn't a difference exacerbated by the transfer to Sony. I'll be interested to hear your thoughts after you've used it for a while. Do you have prior experience with the Minolta or KM SLRs? I'm wondering how the useability compares.

07/31/2006 08:25:32 AM · #30
I was lucky enought to have an a100 for the weekend (a friend of mine is an editor in a photography magazine and had one for review). I took 300+ shots in 2 days. Althought I don't own a dSLR (yet) I must say that I found it very easy to use but I cannot make a direct comparison with other models of the same category.

In the current open challenge [Color on Color], my entry is taken with the a100. When the voting is over you can take a look.

I have do admit though that the only reason I haven't order it yet is Nikon's teaser video. (-:

07/31/2006 10:50:20 AM · #31
Just had a longish test drive of the alpha 100 and found it to be strong in almost every department. Having been playing with Nikon D70s, D200 and the Canon 30D recently I have to say I found that the Sony looks as though it can hold its own with them re basic handling and probably picture quality. However, there is no doubt in my mind that the D200 is a better camera but, at almost double the price, well ...

The alpha really came alive when I stopped playing with the two kit lenses and put on Sigma 18-200mm DC lens. Then this became a system I could really live with with ultra-fast focusing, pretty darn good macro capability and what I saw as more image clarity than the kit lenses.

All I have to do now is take my old Minolta lenses into the store to see if they work and if they do, then it will be time to beg :-)

Carl

PS I have also been intrigued by the Nikon D80 spoilers and am tempted to wait but if I can use my old Minolta lenses (including an f/1.2 50mm prime) then it could be academic.
07/31/2006 07:16:38 PM · #32
DPReview Review of the Sony
//www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydslra100/
07/31/2006 08:47:25 PM · #33
Originally posted by Olyuzi:

If you're looking for a long telephoto bear in mind that Sigma is releasing a 4/3rds version of their 50-500mm lens in the very near future. A lens such as this will give you more reach on a 4/3rds cam with its 2x crop factor than other manufacturers offerings. I believe I heard it'll cost in the $1000 range.

That's more interesting than the new Sony and new Nikon combined. Is it really a new version, or just a 4/3 mount on the same lens? If it's totally new it could be quite a bit smaller and lighter, solving two of the biggest complaints about the "Bigma". Either way, combined with the Olympus's 2x crop factor, you would be getting a sharp 1000mm for under a 1000 bucks. Sounds ideal for wildlife shooting.
07/31/2006 09:29:39 PM · #34
The Sony handles alot like my Minolta Maxxum 5...But I'm still playing with it. It does focus fast. My old eyes like that. The few pics I have taken do look good though. Need to play with the Minolta lenses on it though. See how they compare with the stock one that came with it. I just really liked the fact that I could use the lenses on both camera's...I;ll write more as I take more shots...
08/01/2006 01:56:48 PM · #35
Going through the line by line features of this camera, I feel my heart racing. The specs I can follow, which is a miracle. Thanks to my Canon Rebel film camera, much of the way Sony has created this camera reflects that experience with Canon. Its like falling off your bike and getting right back on again. It is familiar, and very understandable.
I am so tempted to just charge the thing and pay the piper later. My practical side is kicking and screaming, saying "you idiot, save for a rainy day. Don't get this camera. You can't afford it. There are people starving and without a.c, and you are considering buying a new camera?" I am really wanting the Sony badly. Well, let's see if I will be a new owner of the Sony going into the fall, or if my practical side will win.
08/01/2006 10:00:41 PM · #36
Oh just go for it...You only live once and it is a sweet camera. Whats it gonna matter a hundred years from now. Go for it..LOL
08/01/2006 10:06:05 PM · #37
please, please, please tell me if it's noisy. The reason I ask is because I really want to buy the camera but the pictures on dpreview all looked noisy. Even the ones that were in bright light and 100 iso. And I can not/must not have noise in my pictures. So please can you share a 100% crop of a shady area in a normal 100 iso picture? please?
08/02/2006 05:49:04 AM · #38
Originally posted by pcody:

please, please, please tell me if it's noisy. The reason I ask is because I really want to buy the camera but the pictures on dpreview all looked noisy. Even the ones that were in bright light and 100 ISO. And I can not/must not have noise in my pictures. So please can you share a 100% crop of a shady area in a normal 100 ISO picture? please?

If you look at other reviews around the net there is general acceptance that the camera is "noisy" above ISO 400 equivalent and that the in-built noise reduction system is not that great, especially for long exposures. Equally, everything I have read so far - and the pictures that I have seen - indicate that the camera is better than OK at ISO 400 and below.

There have also been tests undertaken by folk (and I am sorry not to be able to post the URL at present) where they have "noise ninja'd" the high ISO images and found them acceptable for the most part. The caveat here - as noted in the dpreview review - is that the detail in the shadows is lost at ISO 1600 regardless.

I did a couple of tests in my favourite photography reseller where I used a macro lens to get tight on some book cover pictures and then magnify them in camera. The alpha was impressive even in low light conditions. I also tried a Nikon D200 and there did not seem to be a lot between them. However, the Canon 30D did seem to be less noisy.

I really like this camera and am very tempted by it. I have a couple of older Minolta lenses I want to try on the alpha and if they work, well, money could change hands!

My advice, therefore, is get thee to your favourite camera shop with a blank card and take some test shots yourself. Examine them in detail with your favourite processing software and then make the decision based on the evidence of your eyes and pictures and not on the basis of hearsay, professional or otherwise.
08/02/2006 06:20:39 AM · #39
I already went yesterday to my local Jessops to try the camera... I haven't looked at the results from my CF card yet.
However, it's unlikely I'll buy it.
I need a back-up body for shooting gigs and low-light events, the new Sony seems worse than the old Minolta 5D for this task.
High ISO noise is very bad news, also the lack of a dedicated ISO button is very disappointing.
I think I'll get a second hand 5D.
However, Sony have hinted that a pro full-frame body is in the works, and I imagine that will be a VERY strong camera.
08/02/2006 07:12:03 AM · #40
One thing to add is that Phil Askey's review (DPReview.com) mentioned that the noise reduction is a bit less strong than the Nikon with the equivalent chip.

Which means that more can be done in post processing with more powerful tools.

This also means that more must be done in post processing with more powerful tools though...

Every camera out there has some amount of sacrifice to get their special performance... I suspect that the AS is warming things up a bit and gently increasing the noise while the reduction algorithm is a bit weak, being more apparent on unedited, straight from the camera shots.

It's very wise to remember that most upper end cams need a bit extra processing over P&S cams. That's just an adjustment you will have to make when you move up.

You don't start getting really insane results straight from the camera until you start getting into the bigger stuff like the 5D and pro-level gear.

I was disappointed with the 1+ second delay to turn it on as well.. Sony, what were you thinking?

I will agree that if they put out a full frame pro body, it will be quite something.

Nikon is apparently very vocal about that tiny difference in wiring between the D200 sensor and the Alpha's sensor as well as the other subtle differences.

But I strongly doubt that Sony actually doesn't know how to add extra channels for the readout for their own chip.

Definitely something to watch for.
08/02/2006 12:31:06 PM · #41
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:


I think I'll get a second hand 5D.

My local Photo-Optix actually has a new 5D in stock at around the £450 mark, body only. Shows that they don't ship a lot of stuff I guess :-)
08/02/2006 12:35:30 PM · #42
Originally posted by eschelar:

It's very wise to remember that most upper end cams need a bit extra processing over P&S cams. That's just an adjustment you will have to make when you move up.

You don't start getting really insane results straight from the camera until you start getting into the bigger stuff like the 5D and pro-level gear.

This is probably very true although I read a review in Shutterbug about the Canon 30D where the reviewer was almost having an orgasm about the wonders of the straight-from-camera black and white shots he was taking. Very nearly turned my head into going down that route but I am really not sure about the ergonomics of the 30D although the noise levels seem to be a lot less than the Sony and the Nikon D200.

Sigh! So much choice and so many factors to take into account. Curiously, I beginning to rethink the whole new camera thing as I start to take pictures for me and not DPC as the B&W I am dragging from the FZ-20 is really very good... [sfx: Munch-like scream]
08/14/2006 07:15:08 PM · #43
Well so far I really like the Sony. I notice noise at high ISO's but I try not to shoot high ISo's...Never did in film photography either. The noise is noticeable above ISO400..But it can be removed with the right software I suppose. Anyway I still like the camera. The pics look good to me and thats all that matters I guess. Can't wait to get some better lenses....
08/14/2006 07:31:31 PM · #44
The higher up you go in Canon's gear the more PP work is expected, or should i say, the more it's expected that it will be done. It gives the photographer more leeway on how the images turn out - so mine have less chance of looking like yours if you know what I mean.

The 30D is very low noise, as long as you don't underexpose. ISO 1600 is useable without noise reduction in many cases. Being able to shoot at 1600 is a wonderful thing - I was in and out of places on vacation and being able to flip from ISO100 outdoors to 1600 indoors (and keep decent F stops and shutter speeds) is so wonderful and versatile it is beyond words.

As to good lenses for the A100 - their (sony's) good glass is way expensive from what i've seen so far. The body is affordable, but it and a couple of 2.8 lenses will cost more than a 30D and similar L glass.
08/17/2006 09:43:46 PM · #45
Well I took the plunge and bought the new Sony dslr. So far I have had some trouble with noise at iso 800 and above, but I am not worried. There are alot of programs out there that can clear it up.
It is a fun camera so far. It has a wonderful macro ability and I've been able to use the close-up lens from the H1 to get some really great close-ups. Now to get a similar 12x zoom as I have with the H1. That will be my first lens purchase, but none are available until the middle of September. I was not going to enter any challenges yet with the alpha until I learned it pretty well, but I did enter Soft Focus. We will see how the image does. The camera is really very user friendly so I caught on much more rapidly than I expected.
08/17/2006 09:50:22 PM · #46
Originally posted by ladymonarda:

It is a fun camera so far. It has a wonderful macro ability and I've been able to use the close-up lens from the H1 to get some really great close-ups.

And we didnt post those shots why?
08/17/2006 09:59:09 PM · #47
I did not post the shots because I do not have a membership with dp. Hence I don't have a portfolio to post to.
08/17/2006 10:06:59 PM · #48
Originally posted by obsidian:

Sigh! So much choice and so many factors to take into account. Curiously, I beginning to rethink the whole new camera thing as I start to take pictures for me and not DPC as the B&W I am dragging from the FZ-20 is really very good... [sfx: Munch-like scream]

Have you priced lenses to replace your FZ-20's 36-432mm f2.8 yet? ;-)
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