Ordered My Canon EOS 10D Today! - DPChallenge Forums

09/06/2003 02:12:30 PM · #1

I finally bought it locally from a local professional photographer shop.
The man that runs it has been in the professional photography business for years. His family is running the store. He said they test every camera that comes into the shop and prints out the photos right in the store. If the camera does not pass he returns it.

The few EOS 10Ds he had in stock he returned because they all had the bad sensor so he expects the new ones in by Thursday. Plus he sells a full line of Professional Photography equipment. I talked with a couple of Professional Photographers while putting my order together.

He said he would beat any price on-line.

1. I got the Canon EOS 10D Kit
EOS 10D Body
Eyecup
Neck Strap
Video Cable
Interface Cable
Battery Pack BP-511
Battery Charger
EOS Digital Solution disk/Photoshop Elements 2.0 disk
2. My Choice on a Macro Lens (Canon Or Sigma)
(I think he said the Sigma was better for close-macros)
3. UV Protective Filter
4. High Speed 1 GB Compact Flash Memory Card
5. Extra Canon BP-511 1200 MAH Lithium Battery
6. Canon EOS Speedlite Flash
7. High Speed 6 in 1 Memory Card Reader
8. Camera Bag
9. Lens Cleaning Kit

All for around $2,300.00. He even beat the price Beach Camera had for their kit on-line!

He said he would call me after they came in and he tested them to make sure they worked correctly. And he would show me when I got there by taking a photo and printing it out.

Now I can not wait until next weekend!

Calvus

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09/06/2003 02:15:59 PM · #2

I'm jealous. Let us see some shots when you get it.

09/06/2003 02:16:25 PM · #3

Welcome to Team 10D...

pitsaman

Canon EOS-30D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

09/06/2003 02:23:46 PM · #4

What ARE THE Macro specs on that thing?
Do you need a separate lens for macro?

09/06/2003 02:25:24 PM · #5

One of the professional Photographers that was in there said he had a Canon D60 and it had the same problem. He said he sold it and bought one of the professional fuji models. But he said they are still damn good equipment. I think he said he still owns his Canon EOS 10D.

He ws showing me a bunch of the equipment he had in his car!

I couldn't stop drooling :)

Heck I was drooling over all of the professional equipment this man had in his store. I had never seen a selection like he had before. No cheap low end equipment in there!

Calvus

09/06/2003 02:32:08 PM · #6

Macro lenses are needed for good macro shots. It's all about the focal length and the minimum focusing distance. Macro lenses have long focal lengths (50-180 in the Canon range) and have very short minimum focusing distances so you can get right in there. I don't think I'd buy a macro lens for my 10D, my F717 is great in that department.

Originally posted by pitsaman:

What ARE THE Macro specs on that thing?
Do you need a separate lens for macro?

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

09/06/2003 02:34:23 PM · #7

Two lens he offered were:
Canon 28-90 USM
Sigma 28-80 Macro Zoom
I did not get any more spec yet.
I can still change if I want

Calvus

EddyG

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

09/06/2003 02:51:30 PM · #8

Originally posted by Calvus:

Canon 28-90 USM
Sigma 28-80 Macro Zoom

Neither of those are very good lenses. Especially for something with as much resolving power as the 10D. Yes, those lenses will definitely take pictures, but lenses are the "key" to a DSLR. Buying a "consumer grade" lens for the 10D is sort of like buying a flashy new sports car, but opting for the 6-cylinder automatic transmission instead of the 8-cylinder manual...

I'd suggest buying good quality lenses whenever possible, rather than buying low-cost lenses and having to "throw them away" (meaning sell them for a lot less than you paid since consumer-grade lenses don't hold their value, unlike professional-caliber lenses) when you decide you want something better.

If you want a macro lens, consider the Canon 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro, or the Sigma 105mm f/2.8 Macro (which doesn't have USM, and focuses slower/louder than the Canon model). Both are outstanding macro lenses.

For $70 or so, you should also consider the Canon 50mm/1.8.

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lionelm

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

09/06/2003 03:32:11 PM · #9

I do not know those.

I would go for the 28-135, that I have, more reach,almosr macro (butterflies, flower, not insects) and IS. And it's a very good consumer lens. 50mm1.8 is a sure thing as well.

for flash I have the 420, not the 550. and very happy with it. Which one is in your bundle ?

Otherwise ... good cam .. both the 10D and 300D.
Lionel

09/06/2003 03:55:33 PM · #10

I'am getting the Canon 420EX EOS Speedlight Flash.

I have anothr flash that came with my EOS 650 That I can use also.

I still have not decided on the lens yet? I have two right now with the EOS 650:

Quantaray - CN AF 1:3.5-5.6 28-80mm Aspherical
Sigma Zoom- AF 1:4.5-5.6 75-300mm

I think I need something better for all around use and macro?

Maybe 2.8 28-80mm

The store owner said he thought the Sigma got upto 5-6" on macro? I need to verify.

Calvus

KBrown

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

09/06/2003 04:36:46 PM · #11

the 6-cylinder automatic transmission

The WHAT? :)

I also have the 420 flash and have no issues with it.

What would be a good low range zoom lens? ~20 to ~70 range.

09/06/2003 11:56:32 PM · #12

Any other Canon EOS 10D owners have any suggestions for moderate cost all around general lens and a macro lens?

Calvus

hortopth

Canon EOS-D60

09/07/2003 12:15:22 AM · #13

there is a thread from earlier today (afternoon, your time), all about the canon EF mount lenses... check under the forums..

09/07/2003 12:16:57 AM · #14

Yes I was just reading it.

Thanks.

Calvus

chalcone

Canon PowerShot S45

09/07/2003 10:06:28 AM · #15

Originally posted by Calvus:

Any other Canon EOS 10D owners have any suggestions for moderate cost all around general lens and a macro lens?
Calvus

I have the sigma 2.8/105mm. I am very pleased with it, though it doesn't have an image stabilizer. Here in HK, it costs approximately US$100 less than the equivalent Canon macro which goes for US$400.

lionelm

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

09/07/2003 10:08:06 AM · #16

Note : the 100 2.8 macro canon does not have it either.

Gordon

RIM BlackBerry Curve

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

09/07/2003 10:30:31 AM · #17

Originally posted by lionelm:

Note : the 100 2.8 macro canon does not have it either.

Pretty much if you are doing macro, you need to be using a tripod anyway. And it needs to be a pretty solid tripod - the 10D plus a macro lens is quite heavy.

Mirror lock-up and at least timer shutter release (if you don't have a cable) are also pretty much required for decent macro work.

The 100mm f2.8 from canon is staggeringly good, usually beyond what my technique allows me to do with it at the moment.

magnetic9999

Canon EOS-20D

Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 EX Aspherical DF for Canon

09/07/2003 10:59:24 AM · #18

With all respect to Gordon, I can get decent handheld macro shots, using my off-camera flash to help me maintain a high shutter speed.

BTW, I use a 420 EX, bounced when possible, and the Canon 50/2.5 mm macro lens, plus the "Life Size Converter" that Canon makes for that lens, which gets me to full 1:1 reproduction. One thing I like about that lens is that it's very small and compact, EXCELLENT optically, and goes from macro focusing distance to normal distances without having to switch any switches or otherwise think about my lens.

That said, the working distance and focusing speed of the 100mm makes it very desirable.

Also, you might want to consider the Sigma 105 macro. Jacko uses and loves that one. And last but not least, I read an eye-opening comparison between the Tamron 90mm macro and the Canon, in which the tester was totally blown away by how closely the Tamron's optical quality matched the Canon, for a much lower price. The Canon's main advantage was in focusing speed, but this might not be enough to justify the price differential...

scab-lab

Canon EOS-D60

09/07/2003 11:18:10 AM · #19

I can vouch for the 90mm Tamron 2.8 macro, thats what I have :)

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

09/07/2003 11:29:55 AM · #20

Second Mag's experience with hand-holding. I find that a tripod is very limiting when shooting things that tend to move. I use my ol' trusty Sunpak 544 flash with a lumiquest "pocket bouncer" (nothing to do with the bar scene).
I find I can maintain 1/200 (max speed for flash synch) at as small as F22 aperture, at nearly 1:1 magnification. And the close proximity of the flash means the lighting isn't shadow-free like a ring flash, but has soft shadows, more like natural lighting.
And the final benefit of this setup is that I can elect to open up to F11, set the flash for 1/4 power, and it will fire at least three times at the full 3 fps burst rate of the 10D! If anyone would like to see how this is set up I can post a pic.
Also, for some awe-inspiring, mostly hand-held insect macro work...

//www.mplonsky.com/photo/article.htm

This guy is my hero! I think this has been posted before, but it's very appropriate this week.

Edited to correct typos...

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smellyfish1002

Canon EOS-20D

09/07/2003 11:34:35 AM · #21

When I bought my first SLR in 1983, it was the Canon AE1 program that came with a 50mm 'normal' lens. I quickly bought a zoom lens the next payda and tossed the 50mm lens somewhere...??? (I still don't know what ever happened to that lens).

Now I have a Canon 10D, and the lens that is on it most of the time is the 50mm 1.4. With the FOV factor(1.6) that makes it an 80mm lens with incredible optical qualities! I have the 70-200mm f4.0 L, which I thought would be my favorite, but it isn't. It is difficult to get crisp images handheld at the longer focal lengths. I probably just need to practice with it, but the 50mm has turned out to be the gem. I ordered a 100mm 2.8 macro, but it is till on backorder...

Good luck with your choices and have fun!
JD

Gordon

RIM BlackBerry Curve

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

09/07/2003 11:52:28 AM · #22

Yup, I use my 100mm macro handheld as well, but also with flash.

I doubt that IS would be much use there either but maybe.

Sorry - didn't explain myself fully - but the comment was in reply to the lack of IS on the macro lens. IS doesn't help you much with things that are moving either.

09/07/2003 11:56:49 AM · #23

Smelly, some more 50mm shots I took yesterday. I really, really like this lens. The 17-40L will probably complete the trio. As for the 70-200, try using a higher ISO. I got mine mainly for outdoor use, but yeah I hear you. It needs to be shot at 1/200th or faster to get a crisp shot (1/focal length rule) at the long end. Another reason why the 17-40L being F4 isn't as much of a concern indoors - at 17 it can be shot handheld at 1/15th and up with good results. That is assuming, of course, that your subjects are fairly still!

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smellyfish1002

Canon EOS-20D

09/07/2003 12:22:05 PM · #24

Originally posted by jimmythefish:

Message edited by author 2003-09-07 12:25:06.