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09/04/2003 12:24:31 AM · #1 |
This has probably been going on since DPchallenge started. I've notice that a lot of photos submitted for the challenges really have nothing to do with the subject.
I almost feel guilty giving lower scores because of this. Pretty sure a lot of people feel the same way.
Comments anyone?
Message edited by author 2003-09-04 00:26:19. |
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09/04/2003 12:39:51 AM · #2 |
| I would have to agree...hard to find the oops in some. also, I see some situations created that to some would be a whole lot more than "OOPS" At least the definition I am familiar with of "OOPS". On the other hand I had one person say "I dont see how this meets the challenge" so it appears, as with many photos, the subject is subjective:) |
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09/04/2003 12:40:55 AM · #3 |
| I notice it all the time and I also give low scores for it because even though it might be a great picture if it has nothing to do with the theme than it is worthless. Sometimes people think so far out of the box that I have to look at the title twice too make sure I understand what they are trying to say. What bugs me more than that is when people get a better score than they should have soley in idea instead of the photo that goes with the idea. I think the challenges should be judged by theme content and the quality of the photo. I doubt if it will change though. |
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09/04/2003 12:41:52 AM · #4 |
I think you need to first broaden your outlook as to what constitutes a subject "having to do with" the challenge.
As I've done a couple of times before, you are welcome to email me links to up to 3 images you have trouble relating to the challenge, and I'll message you back with some possible ideas. In general, it is best to exchange this kind of info by PM instead of the forums, especially for active challenges.
Just a reminder, that "failure to meet the challenge" may be a reason to apply a low vore, but it is NOT a reason to request a DQ. |
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09/04/2003 12:42:28 AM · #5 |
It actually depends on how you look at them. Sometimes I see a photo that I can't tie to the challenge in any way - that is totally off-topic. Far more often, I see someone who has stretched the definition of the challenge or who has made a pun-based or otherwise witty reinterpretation of the statement of it.
Generally, I deduct at most a point or two if it's sort-of-on-topic-but-not-quite (say, in the right angles challenge, if it had right angles but I didn't feel they were the strength of the photo). If it's totally off-topic (say, if someone had posted a close-up of a beach ball to the right angles challenge), then I deduct much more harshly.
Part of the challenge is to, within limits, take good photos. If you throw the limits off and work with your favorite sorts of things (or the ones you are best at) even if they aren't appropriate for the challenge, then you have a wider chance at a really good image - more subjects, more situations, etc. - than you would if you held to the challenge.
So I definitely do take the challenge into account, but I always try to work out what the person was thinking, also. It's a very different thing to miss the mark, or to play with the challenge (which, done cleverly, is on-topic but in unique ways), than it is to enter a photo that doesn't meet the challenge at all.
Which isn't to say that I always know. I'm sure I've thought that a couple didn't meet the challenge at all, and they did, and I just failed to find the perspective that the person taking it held. I try, though. |
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09/04/2003 12:42:33 AM · #6 |
| "oops" was a great challenge when talking about things that didn't fit the theme. How many eggs can we show! LOL |
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09/04/2003 12:46:12 AM · #7 |
Sometimes I see a photo in a challenge that is out of the box but excellent in the "different" interpretation of the challenge. I give that photo one extra point right at the get go for ingenuity and then continue from there.
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09/04/2003 01:00:10 AM · #8 |
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Message edited by author 2003-09-04 01:00:37. |
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09/04/2003 01:01:26 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by faidoi:
This has probably been going on since DPchallenge started. I've notice that a lot of photos submitted for the challenges really have nothing to do with the subject.
I almost feel guilty giving lower scores because of this. Pretty sure a lot of people feel the same way.
Comments anyone? |
Like photos of flowers in the "speed" and current "oops" challenge for example. |
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09/04/2003 01:02:09 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by kyrielle:
It actually depends on how you look at them. Sometimes I see a photo that I can't tie to the challenge in any way - that is totally off-topic. Far more often, I see someone who has stretched the definition of the challenge or who has made a pun-based or otherwise witty reinterpretation of the statement of it. |
Pretty sure this has been talk to about also. What if we could see the photographers comments at the time of voting?
Message edited by author 2003-09-04 01:02:20. |
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09/04/2003 01:13:05 AM · #11 |
| Or the dog in the tools challenge. |
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09/04/2003 01:13:06 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by Jaxson:
Like photos of flowers in the "speed" and current "oops" challenge for example. |
Can't wait to see a beautiful sunset with nice clouds for the "Insect" challenge. lol |
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09/04/2003 01:20:31 AM · #13 |
| Great idea. Think I'll post it myself. |
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09/04/2003 01:22:49 AM · #14 |
| Just out of curiosity -- is there no date for the insect challenge. I have one I want to enter but I took it two weeks ago and usually the challenge has to be taken in a matter of days. Am I not looking at it correctly. |
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09/04/2003 02:39:30 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by Firstrich1:
...I see some situations created that to some would be a whole lot more than "OOPS" At least the definition I am familiar with of "OOPS". |
I took a pretty broad view based on the challenge description.
Photograph something gone wrong.
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09/04/2003 02:45:40 AM · #16 |
| Why would you feel guilty for giving a low score on something that doesn't fit the challenge? That's a huge part of what I score on. "Does it make me feel (enter challenge here) when I look at it?" Two parts: Meeting the challenge, and meeting the challenge well (a well shot and composed piece). |
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