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06/23/2006 11:26:01 AM · #1
I can't find a place where Glass was talked about but I have a question. I just thought of this this morning and was wondering about the literal arts rule thing.

If you take a shot of a church stained glass window just of itself without the building then isn't that breaking the literal arts rule unless you add something to it? I just seem to think that without being able to take some kinds of glass shots that there may be a lot who want to do this cathedral or church window glass thing and frame it just around the window itself. I want to know if that will be accepted or not before I vote.

06/23/2006 11:37:33 AM · #2
I guess I'm not familiar with the literal arts rule, but if it is a photo of glass, that fits the challenge in my mind.
06/23/2006 11:38:12 AM · #3
Originally posted by CVette:

I guess I'm not familiar with the literal arts rule, but if it is a photo of glass, that fits the challenge in my mind.


Please read the rules then.
06/23/2006 11:39:37 AM · #4
Since statues are ok I'd thing stained glass windows are ok too since they're 3-d and there's the lighting aspect to take into consideration. But I'd ask SC just to make sure.
06/23/2006 11:42:17 AM · #5
as to the literal art rule...I take a harder stand on it than the SC seems to - if you have some type of interpreation of it, be it angle, lighting, etc then you're probably OK.

I had a macro of money kicked out once as they considered money to be art. Well, paper money. Coin money is not art...

And they have said more than once that including a BG works as interpretation, even it is an outside work of art and you show the whole thing - you have to show a BG of some kind if it's outside after all...

So i avoid the whole art thing completely unless its very abstrant and 3 dimensional and outside.
06/23/2006 11:43:23 AM · #6
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

Originally posted by CVette:

I guess I'm not familiar with the literal arts rule, but if it is a photo of glass, that fits the challenge in my mind.


Please read the rules then.

Challenge Rules (Basic)
06/23/2006 11:43:41 AM · #7
Originally posted by KarenNfld:

Since statues are ok I'd thing stained glass windows are ok too since they're 3-d and there's the lighting aspect to take into consideration. But I'd ask SC just to make sure.


That is true. The lighting would make the difference I think.

Site council will probably see this post. Maybe I should have asked in private though now that I think of it. I may have stepped on the shoes of someone who wants to enter a photo like this. Ooooops.

I have a photo entered in the other exclusive, but I may go with glass (but not a stained glass window :). I am just not sure how to be "universal" in a superstition/urban legend and I think that will hurt. I don't want to be duplicated either and the only one I have I want to use I am sure will be duplicated. The other four I had in mind will be unknown to most in the world. So it is hard to choose. I hate shooting glass but maybe I can come up with something creative. :)

Message edited by author 2006-06-23 11:47:37.
06/23/2006 11:51:21 AM · #8
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

Originally posted by CVette:

I guess I'm not familiar with the literal arts rule, but if it is a photo of glass, that fits the challenge in my mind.


Please read the rules then.


OK, I did. I guess I didn't think of stained glass as an art per se but I can see it now. I can't think of many instances where this rule would be broken. Photographers constantly make artistic decisions for lighting, composition, etc. hmm, interesting.

Message edited by author 2006-06-23 11:52:53.
06/23/2006 11:54:22 AM · #9
Literal Artwork Tutorial
06/23/2006 12:23:39 PM · #10
Originally posted by glad2badad:

Literal Artwork Tutorial


Good stuff - thx
06/23/2006 12:25:27 PM · #11
Originally posted by CVette:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Literal Artwork Tutorial


Good stuff - thx

Welcome. ;^)
06/23/2006 12:43:06 PM · #12
How about this?
06/23/2006 12:44:11 PM · #13
Originally posted by banmorn:

How about this?

Very nice. No problems with rules on it either. ;^)
06/23/2006 05:24:01 PM · #14
Originally posted by banmorn:

How about this?


WOW! That is gorgeous!!!
06/23/2006 05:46:21 PM · #15
This is an interesting discussion. My first thought was no, it wouldn't be illegal, because of lighting, etc.

But, when you think about it, if I decide to take a photo of one of my own old photos to enter into a challenge, I would have to make a few lighting decisions also and decide how to crop it, etc.

I'm indecisive about this one. I suppose SC would have to debate it also.
06/23/2006 06:26:14 PM · #16
Originally posted by CVette:



OK, I did. I guess I didn't think of stained glass as an art per se but I can see it now. I can't think of many instances where this rule would be broken. Photographers constantly make artistic decisions for lighting, composition, etc. hmm, interesting.


That's OK, i didn't think of money as art either. Hence the warning on interpretation. Mine was a small part of a $5 bill, macro in nature. Not the whole 'artwork' and not 'a literal representation' IMO, but a bit mroe abstract. Apparently 2 dimensional was the issue.
06/24/2006 04:36:23 PM · #17
Originally posted by CVette:

Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

Originally posted by CVette:

I guess I'm not familiar with the literal arts rule, but if it is a photo of glass, that fits the challenge in my mind.


Please read the rules then.


OK, I did. I guess I didn't think of stained glass as an art per se but I can see it now. I can't think of many instances where this rule would be broken. Photographers constantly make artistic decisions for lighting, composition, etc. hmm, interesting.


Stained Glass is a very detailed and delicate art. I had the luxury of knowing a great artist who also does her art in stained glass. She did very well for herself and every piece was a masterpiece.
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