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06/21/2006 06:19:43 PM · #76
Originally posted by djkrev:

AAHHHHHH!!! This is crazy... And it lasts for a week to finally get the results??? Oh man...


Well, that depends. Sometimes they make you wait longer, like 2 weeks or so, especially if you get anxious. It's to keep you on your toes.

[just kidding :) ]

Message edited by author 2006-06-21 18:20:15.
06/21/2006 06:52:50 PM · #77
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by Ivar:

Is it just me or aren´t there plenty of pictures in this challenge that obviously do not meet the challenge?

What I mean is that some pictures there do not look like they are a 30 second exposure...

Anyone else think so?


What exactly does a 30 second exposure look like? I feel that kind of thinking is KILLING my shot. Nothing in the description said anything had to be blurred.


I think you may be right Fotomann. It may be coincidence, but since my photo was validated, my scores seem to be going up. Can voters tell that a picture has been validated?
06/21/2006 07:00:46 PM · #78
Votes: 116
Views: 167
Avg Vote: 5.7845
Comments: 0

I cant believe not a single comment.
06/21/2006 07:09:03 PM · #79
Originally posted by Ivar:

Is it just me or aren´t there plenty of pictures in this challenge that obviously do not meet the challenge?

What I mean is that some pictures there do not look like they are a 30 second exposure...

Anyone else think so?

Originally posted by Ivar:

I just want to make it clear that it was not my intention to be some sort of a troll with the question I asked here above. I was just going through the images and this just rubbed me the wrong way :)


Just because a 30sec photo doesn't anwser to your expectations of how a 30sec photo should look (at least showing some blur), doesn't mean that the makers are cheaters in some way and therefor need to be punished by a low(er) vote.
Mine is one of the 'normal' looking 30sec pics and that's exactly what my exif will be showing when asked: 30sec.

If you have doubt, then be a man/woman and push that 'validation' button, so we can get it over with before voting is ended. I'm not saying mine would score higher after being validated, but I think it's quite unfair to vote photos down just because of an assumption that could be cleared up so easily.
Then if a not looking like a 30sec photo shows 'this photo has been validated' one finally can look to what it has to tell.

Don't have dimes, so I threw in 2 euro cents.


06/21/2006 07:17:02 PM · #80
Originally posted by Ivar:

But there are pictures in that challenge taken in broad daylight and understandebly people have a hard time beliving that those are 30 second exposures.


Yea mine doesn't really look like a 30 second exposure and the funny thing is, it's 40 seconds. Looks can defintely be decieving and voters should definitely keep that in mind.
06/21/2006 07:19:34 PM · #81
Originally posted by Tygerr:


I think you may be right Fotomann. It may be coincidence, but since my photo was validated, my scores seem to be going up. Can voters tell that a picture has been validated?


Yes, there is text under the photo that says "This photo has been validated." It shouldn't make a lick of difference, but unfortunately it does, because voters have a hard time obeying the "rule" of voting that says "vote as if the photo is legal".
06/21/2006 07:21:15 PM · #82
You see; this is the second time around the block with this time exposure. The first time a commotion erupted because one of the winners did not adhere to the letter. Why would anybody suppose that history will repeat itself so soon? I doubt it. It us just that some of us are so easily fooled within the medium we practice.
06/21/2006 07:23:29 PM · #83
Originally posted by Ivar:

But there are pictures in that challenge taken in broad daylight and understandebly people have a hard time beliving that those are 30 second exposures.


I have voted and didnt vote any down because I was supicious of their validity but to enable me to learn more I'm interested in understanding how to get a broad-daylight shot of such long exposure/ When i try it (without filters as I dont have any if that is the answer) I just can't get 30 seconds without blowing everything out!
06/21/2006 07:25:39 PM · #84
I vote them all just as they are and treat them all as if they are already validated. I just finished voting and have to say it has the best entries I've seen in awhile!
06/21/2006 07:26:38 PM · #85
Originally posted by Nuzzer:

When i try it (without filters as I dont have any if that is the answer) I just can't get 30 seconds without blowing everything out!


Most likely you won't get good results in broad daylight without filters, unless you have a lens that stops down to f/64 or some ridiculously high number :-)
06/21/2006 07:32:29 PM · #86
Votes: 132
Views: 397
Avg Vote: 6.1061
Comments: 5
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 06/21/06 07:29 pm

Well, people are certainly looking! The most views I've had during an entire week of voting was aroung 450. I have 397 in 19 1/2 hours! And my score is rising. And my photo isn't labeled as validated yet. I'm feeling happy.

06/21/2006 07:33:22 PM · #87
Originally posted by mystopia:

I vote them all just as they are and treat them all as if they are already validated. I just finished voting and have to say it has the best entries I've seen in awhile!


I must agree with you mystopia - I voted on all the pics, and there were some really terrific photos in there. I think the standard was very high, and I won't be surprised if the ribbons go to very high averages.
06/21/2006 07:34:45 PM · #88
I don't have a lot of time but I'm going to go try to comment .. mainly because I want to see them all again ;)
06/21/2006 08:44:16 PM · #89
Originally posted by Titia:

Originally posted by Ivar:

Is it just me or aren´t there plenty of pictures in this challenge that obviously do not meet the challenge?

What I mean is that some pictures there do not look like they are a 30 second exposure...

Anyone else think so?

Originally posted by Ivar:

I just want to make it clear that it was not my intention to be some sort of a troll with the question I asked here above. I was just going through the images and this just rubbed me the wrong way :)


Just because a 30sec photo doesn't anwser to your expectations of how a 30sec photo should look (at least showing some blur), doesn't mean that the makers are cheaters in some way and therefor need to be punished by a low(er) vote.
Mine is one of the 'normal' looking 30sec pics and that's exactly what my exif will be showing when asked: 30sec.

If you have doubt, then be a man/woman and push that 'validation' button, so we can get it over with before voting is ended. I'm not saying mine would score higher after being validated, but I think it's quite unfair to vote photos down just because of an assumption that could be cleared up so easily.
Then if a not looking like a 30sec photo shows 'this photo has been validated' one finally can look to what it has to tell.

Don't have dimes, so I threw in 2 euro cents.


Yeah, don´t worry about that.

I follow the guidelines laid out by DPC to vote on an image no matter if it meets the requierments of the challenge or not. And yes, I have clicked the request for validation button on 2 pictures.
06/21/2006 08:48:24 PM · #90
Everyone quit picking on Ivar. He's entitled to his opinion, even if he is wrong.. ;-)
06/21/2006 09:06:30 PM · #91
Someone just gave me a 4! The nerve!
06/21/2006 09:09:21 PM · #92
damn trolls!
06/21/2006 09:11:51 PM · #93
Originally posted by larryslights:

Someone just gave me a 4! The nerve!


how do you tell that? comments i suppose?
06/21/2006 09:21:03 PM · #94
Originally posted by Nikonian Ninja:

Originally posted by larryslights:

Someone just gave me a 4! The nerve!


how do you tell that? comments i suppose?


139 votes * 6.1439 = 854 "points"
140 votes * 6.1286 = 858 "points"

Vote #140 was a 4.

Message edited by author 2006-06-21 21:21:17.
06/21/2006 09:27:11 PM · #95
hehehe want an excel spreadsheet? LOL!
06/21/2006 09:37:57 PM · #96
Originally posted by Ivar:

Originally posted by Titia:

If you have doubt, then be a man/woman and push that 'validation' button, so we can get it over with before voting is ended. I'm not saying mine would score higher after being validated, but I think it's quite unfair to vote photos down just because of an assumption that could be cleared up so easily.
Then if a not looking like a 30sec photo shows 'this photo has been validated' one finally can look to what it has to tell.

Don't have dimes, so I threw in 2 euro cents.


Yeah, don´t worry about that.

I follow the guidelines laid out by DPC to vote on an image no matter if it meets the requierments of the challenge or not. And yes, I have clicked the request for validation button on 2 pictures.


Ivar,

You're not alone on this, there have been a couple of images that looked more like they were shot at 1/30 second than 30 seconds. So yes, like you I flagged them for validation and then voted as if they were legal - one was quite good, one was quite mundane.

On another note, I am (as predicted) ahead of my previous personal best set in Indulgence, and even scored a couple of Favourites. Wheeee! Feedback for learning is good, but positive affirmation is too. :)
06/22/2006 12:40:51 AM · #97
good answer... good answer!
06/22/2006 01:42:27 AM · #98
How can a subject be 'not really for this challenge'...???
06/22/2006 01:48:36 AM · #99
Originally posted by Titia:

How can a subject be 'not really for this challenge'...???


You too, huh... some people believe a photo should "look like a 30-second photo". What the hell ever that means. I don't bitch about comments much, but I just got a particularly stupid one minutes ago.
06/22/2006 02:11:09 AM · #100
I was thinking when I took my picture that I should be using the 30 second restriction as a way to make my picture more interesting or special...

A part of the picture and what makes it good as it were...

For some of the pictures to look like broad daylight, but actually be 30 seconds is actually one way that a photographer could be displaying some skill...

There's a pretty wild thunderstorm happening right now in broad daylight and it will be very interesting to see if I can bring things down from 1/8000 to 30 seconds...

I don't think I can do it even with stacked polarizers (which turns everything purple anyways)...

I think I will buy a couple non-gradient ND filters today... :)

I did notice that the challenge description does not include anything about what the shot should look like...
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