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06/14/2006 10:41:41 PM · #126 |
Originally posted by vkr_ravi:
oh..thanks a lot. :) |
And though both photos don't seem to show any hint of bokeh, the second may qualify based on the challenge description. The strong vertical lines in the OOF background add tension and interest to the image. |
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06/14/2006 10:44:52 PM · #127 |
There's not really any bokeh in this image, however, based on the challenge description it qualifies with the OOF background having some nice pattern and colour that enhances the subject. (IMO anyway)
Message edited by author 2006-06-14 23:42:35. |
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06/14/2006 10:48:48 PM · #128 |
Originally posted by mk:
I was not under the impression that the background had to contain circles in order to be considered good bokeh. In fact, this is the first time I've heard that. I may be wrong but it looks like quite a few voters feel the same way. |
No, bokeh is not just circles. It's actually the way light gets "distorted" (unsure the correct term) when the aperture blade opens/closes. This link here provides a very good explanation on Bokeh without being very confusing. |
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06/14/2006 10:52:00 PM · #129 |
| Aw man... I was having a really good time shooting for this challenge, and have several images that I like. Now I'm going to have to stress over whether they are Bokeh or shallow dof. grumble..grumble... I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this thead. Then I could still be ingnorantly blissful about my pretty pictures that don't have any little white circles in them. Sigh. |
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06/14/2006 11:34:34 PM · #130 |
I was always under the impression that bokeh was little, out of focus circles of light. Here are my examples. I guess the best thing to do is have the subject outside with the full sun coming thru the trees or in front of a sparkling lake and you'll get bokeh everytime... Just call them ''dancing lights''....
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06/14/2006 11:46:11 PM · #131 |
Originally posted by margiemu:
Aw man... I was having a really good time shooting for this challenge, and have several images that I like. Now I'm going to have to stress over whether they are Bokeh or shallow dof. grumble..grumble... I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this thead. Then I could still be ingnorantly blissful about my pretty pictures that don't have any little white circles in them. Sigh. |
Try not to take it that way. Positively, you can take this as a learning opportunity to understand what Bokeh really is :) |
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06/15/2006 12:02:03 AM · #132 |
bumping for nightshift...
Message edited by author 2006-06-15 00:04:25. |
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06/15/2006 12:03:58 AM · #133 |
This is bokeh at it's best.... and this belongs to Ursula by the way....
Message edited by author 2006-06-15 01:43:46. |
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06/15/2006 01:44:24 AM · #134 |
Just trying to keep this one going..
I found this interesting site about bokeh. This is a great Bokeh explanation |
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06/15/2006 01:50:19 AM · #135 |
Another KenRockwell article? Anyway, here is an alternative link to understanding BOKEH, from Luminous Landscape website. Provides some nifty examples of how you can control Bokeh |
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06/15/2006 01:52:07 AM · #136 |
For those that think P&S cams can't do bokeh. Check out all the discs around the photo of my rooster. Shot with Nikon Coolpix 8700.
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06/15/2006 01:55:30 AM · #137 |
Now I'm just thinking outloud.. but wouldn't turning a sprinkler on behind a subject give some lovely orbish-highlights? :)
I'll sue anyone who ribbons with that idea :P
Message edited by author 2006-06-15 01:56:16. |
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06/15/2006 01:56:39 AM · #138 |
Originally posted by idnic:
Now I'm just thinking outloud.. but wouldn't turning a sprinkler on behind a subject give some lovely orbish-highlights? :) |
Self portrait? If so, I'm liking that idea ...lol
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06/15/2006 01:58:27 AM · #139 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Self portrait? If so, I'm liking that idea ...lol |
Ugh, I'm tired of me and I'm guessing I'm not the only one! I need to hire some uhmmmm exchange students or somefin! lol |
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06/15/2006 02:35:36 AM · #140 |
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06/15/2006 04:07:23 AM · #141 |
There's a good chance this has been asked already, so my apologies in anticipation, but how it bokeh pronounced? Like bouquet of flowers?
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06/15/2006 05:57:38 AM · #142 |
Originally posted by breadfan35:
OK, the other night I logged on to see who had placed 1st, 2nd, 3rd for unexpected find and I saw the bokeh challenge. Now, I have never in my life even heard the word bokeh. So I clicked on the challenge and read the challenge description.
"Loosely defined, bokeh is the quality and "feel" of the out-of-focus foreground or background elements of a photo. It isn't very interesting by itself, but take a photograph whose subject is enhanced by the bokeh of the background."
Right away I started having ideas and getting ready to take the shots. Then I see this thread and now I'm not sure about this challenge. It would seem that alot of people have their own idea (maybe the more accurate one) of what bokeh means and will be looking for and voting according to their idea. I have seen this come up in a few of the challenges in my short time here. It would seem to me that either the challenge descriptions need to be stated better and more in depth, or that people should let go of their preconceived notions of how the challenges should be met, and stop throwing up the DNMC card just because you think bokeh (or whatever) means something different. If the photo falls in line with the parameters of the challenge description wording, then it does meet the challenge, period.
Based on the description, just about every photo posted in this thread would meet the challenge.
Then again, this is just a newbies humble opinion. |
Wow. I think what this guy said makes alot of sense... |
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06/15/2006 06:20:15 AM · #143 |
Originally posted by manic35:
There's a good chance this has been asked already, so my apologies in anticipation, but how it bokeh pronounced? Like bouquet of flowers? |
"bo" as in "bottom". "ke" as in "O.K.". The "h" on the end to aid non-Japanese speakers that it's a two-syllable word. |
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06/15/2006 06:20:32 AM · #144 |
Originally posted by manic35:
There's a good chance this has been asked already, so my apologies in anticipation, but how it bokeh pronounced? Like bouquet of flowers? |
//www.imaginatorium.org/stuff/cufilter.htm
"How is it pronounced, then? "Boke(h)"? Well, in British English pronunciation, imagine the words "botch" and "ketch", then string them together with the "-tch" bits omitted. (If you're an American speaker the first part is probably closer to "boat" with the t missing.)"
There's also a mention in the notes section of the Wikipedia article.
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06/15/2006 08:20:56 AM · #145 |
I don't think any of the voters are going to vote this properly. I think if you take a nice shallow dof image with a touch of backlight, most are going to give it a good score.
I am skipping this one, good luck to ya. |
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06/15/2006 08:36:28 AM · #146 |
Got this last summer with my point & shoot:
Got this with my slr & 100mm macro lens, which I'll be using to try to find something for this challenge :-):
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06/15/2006 10:21:23 AM · #147 |
Originally posted by breadfan35:
... Now, I have never in my life even heard the word bokeh. So I clicked on the challenge and read the challenge description.
"Loosely defined, bokeh is the quality and "feel" of the out-of-focus foreground or background elements of a photo. It isn't very interesting by itself, but take a photograph whose subject is enhanced by the bokeh of the background."
... Then I see this thread and now I'm not sure about this challenge.
... If the photo falls in line with the parameters of the challenge description wording, then it does meet the challenge, period.
Based on the description, just about every photo posted in this thread would meet the challenge. |
You are new so I will explain...
Basic challenges are also called technical challenges. The idea of these is to teach those new to photography about some technical aspect of the craft and provide experience using it on their own. Bokeh is an excellent choice for this.
What you say is logically correct and would work if the challenge description actually defined bokeh or referenced where you could find out more about it. It doesn't, that is why every picture in this discussion would meet the challenge.
"Quality and feel" is insufficient as a technical definition. That statement does not distinguish it from shallow depth of field, hence the need for discussions like this.
Bokeh is identifiable lense abberrations magnified in the out of focus areas of the image. That is what distinguishes it from shallow depth of field. The lense abberations are then purposely incorporated into the frame as a significant element of the composition.
If you want to understand bokeh specifics then check out this innocent looking link:
//www.nemeng.com/leica/014e.shtml
The section called "Links and articles" takes you to some terrific material that explains bokeh in great depth. It includes the fine article thegrandwazoo sited earlier. There is even a reference where you can actually experiment with bokeh interactively online.
To learn bokeh read the articles and find out what types of lense aberrations to look for. Then practice with your own camera and lens(es) to see what bokeh they can provide. Then take a picture using the bokeh your lense can produce and incorporate it as an important element of the composition.
There ya go! That is all there is to it. ;)
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06/15/2006 10:25:08 AM · #148 |
Originally posted by Pug-H:
Originally posted by manic35:
There's a good chance this has been asked already, so my apologies in anticipation, but how it bokeh pronounced? Like bouquet of flowers? |
"bo" as in "bottom". "ke" as in "O.K.". The "h" on the end to aid non-Japanese speakers that it's a two-syllable word. |
Since the word has Japanese origins, I thought the o would be pronounced long, as in yo-yo or ghost. Am I completely wrong?
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06/15/2006 10:30:18 AM · #149 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
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Good examples of bokeh. The bokeh in the first image might be a stronger compositional element if it were behind the ladybug.
Message edited by author 2006-06-15 10:31:11.
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06/15/2006 01:14:16 PM · #150 |
So, am I reading this right.
To get good bokeh, open up the iris, have long lens, dappaled light in bg.
Is this pretty much how to do it?
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