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05/28/2006 02:14:52 PM · #1

ok, so I tried to do the cool looking dark sky with burning on this pic and for some reason it looks kinda "streaky" and fake. Take a look and maybe let me know what I am doing wrong. Thanks!

05/28/2006 02:16:25 PM · #2
Use adjustment layers or better yet, a gradient layer ;)
05/28/2006 02:17:41 PM · #3
Well for one thing you used the burning tool...
Instead of doing that duplicate the layer and change the blending mode to multiply, and then add a layer mask to the layer and then use a paint brush to erase all the stuff you dont want burned.
05/28/2006 02:26:19 PM · #4
a lot of people say it's a bad idea... but I do most of my editing on the actual layer the image is on. When i want to burn something (and i love to do it) I'll make the brush as big as possible, and then use a VERY low setting like 2-5%. It's much easier to keep it even looking when you do that. Try not to change the whole bg, try to accent what's there.
05/28/2006 02:26:24 PM · #5
...or, you can create a new blank layer and set the blending mode to "soft light" paint on it with black to burn (darken) and white to dodge (lighten)....

edit to add, this allows you to erase mistakes and to change the overall opacity of the layer to lessen the effect

Message edited by author 2006-05-28 14:27:18.
05/28/2006 03:47:34 PM · #6
thanks for your help there. It is a little more difficult for me I think cause I use Microsoft Digital Image Suite 10 and the terminology i think is different. Thanks again!
05/28/2006 04:13:51 PM · #7
Originally posted by Rikki:

Use adjustment layers or better yet, a gradient layer ;)


How do you do a gradient layer without obscuring your subject? I was fussing around with this last night and couldn't get it to work.
05/28/2006 05:27:34 PM · #8
Originally posted by diamond6:

thanks for your help there. It is a little more difficult for me I think cause I use Microsoft Digital Image Suite 10 and the terminology i think is different. Thanks again!


In DIP 10, you can still use layers: Make sure the entire image is selected. Then go to Edit/Duplicate. You now have a new layer. You can dodge/burn, whatever you want. You can apply these changes to the entire image, or just to a portion, whatever.

The "trick" is to then go to Effects/Transarency. Transparency/Even will apply transparency to the entire image at once. This is most useful when you want to adjust the effect of a filter, such as Diffuse Glow, Sepia, or Black/White.

Transparency/Gradual will apply the changes you made in the new layer on a gradual basis, ie. vignette effect, gradient in a million directions, etc. I find this to be most useful when darkening a sky, or for a vignette effect (try the circle gradient for that).

Transparency/Transparency Brush will give you a selection brush that will give you complete control over what you bring back from the original (or bottom layer). Notice that the transparency brush is set to 35% as a default, you can bump that up to 100%. Leaving it at 35% means you have to make more than one pass over an area...the effect is cumulative. I find this most useful when I've used Gaussian blur to smooth out a background, and I want to bring back facial detail.

Hope this helps,

Laurie


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05/29/2006 12:04:28 PM · #9
hey, thanks Laurie. That helps a ton!
05/29/2006 12:33:15 PM · #10
Originally posted by karmabreeze:

Originally posted by Rikki:

Use adjustment layers or better yet, a gradient layer ;)


How do you do a gradient layer without obscuring your subject? I was fussing around with this last night and couldn't get it to work.


A mask over your subject. Create a new gradient adjustment layer and then with a black brush paint over your subject on the layer mask.

That's what I did on this photo.


The sky only hinted of those hues before I did a gradient over it.

Message edited by author 2006-05-29 12:34:37.
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