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05/11/2006 07:57:33 PM · #1 |
Has anyone here tried THIS yet? A friend of mine was just telling me that it's only $20 at Office Max and he loves it... it looks like a great tool for easy higher security...
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05/11/2006 08:00:36 PM · #2 |
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05/11/2006 08:01:21 PM · #3 |
We just brought a new laptop at work with one built into it. It's a great idea.
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05/11/2006 08:03:23 PM · #4 |
| I have a built in fingerprint reader on my tablet at the office. I love it and everyone else hates it since they can't access my system. |
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05/11/2006 08:06:06 PM · #5 |
You can also use gelatine or silicone. Lift the print and make a fake finger tip and your in!
The gelatine on the finger helps defeat the perspiration algorithm.
Message edited by author 2006-05-11 20:08:08. |
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05/11/2006 08:06:39 PM · #6 |
| Sounds wonderful, but how do you access your goodies from a different computer, like when you're on vacation? |
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05/11/2006 08:06:55 PM · #7 |
it's pretty cheap too. I was expecting it to be way costlier.
Interesting the direction of security & technology... perhaps a bit scary too.
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05/11/2006 09:09:14 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by Beetle:
Sounds wonderful, but how do you access your goodies from a different computer, like when you're on vacation? |
There is still a password associated with it.. You just have to remember the password the same way you do now and use it when needed...
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05/11/2006 10:01:58 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
... great tool for easy higher security...
There is still a password associated with it.. You just have to remember the password the same way you do now and use it when needed... |
If there IS still a password associated with it, then how is the security higher?
I'm not trying to be a nuisance, just hoping to understand it because I'm very interested. |
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05/11/2006 10:20:26 PM · #10 |
On mine you cannot enable fingerprint security until you have a password for the user. Once enabled, the system requires a fingerprint scan to boot as well as refresh from a screen saver or hibernate mode. If you don't want to use the scanner you can press the keys to open the password logon.
If you don't know the password or are not familiar with the scanners, then it is a bit daunting. I am sure, just as any other, there are ways around like the ones posted above, but I have found it to be the best deterrent on my system so far (I am not in the office where I have the Tablet PC everyday, only three times a week). |
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05/11/2006 10:24:11 PM · #11 |
| So can this be used for more than logging on to your computer, too? I.e. for accessing online accounts, logging in to websites, etc? |
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05/11/2006 10:27:50 PM · #12 |
Accounts, yes if they are accounts as users on the computer. But as far as anything accessed once the computer is logged on, no..at least not mine. It is designed to prevent access to your computer, not access to stuff once you are logged on and say, surfing the web. However, some of the after market ones may provide this type of protection although I have not seen one yet that does. Perhaps someone can prove me wrong on this.
Message edited by author 2006-05-11 22:29:15. |
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05/11/2006 10:28:10 PM · #13 |
| I'm getting one of these in the fall with my new laptop (yay!). Hopefully it works nicely. |
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05/11/2006 10:30:09 PM · #14 |
| Thanks for that information, Chris. |
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05/11/2006 10:31:52 PM · #15 |
My tablet accepts up to 10 different fingerprint scans per user - one for each finger - I suggest that if you are the only user, you scan all ten of your fingers. It takes three good scans to register each fingerprint and they are identified as the finger location. As in you select right thumb, left thumb, etc. then register the scans. If there are going to be other users, scan at least 5 of your own and let the other users scan one or two of theirs to keep the accounts as one (saves a lot of disk space in XP)- of course different fingers than the ones of yours you scanned. Otherwise you each get 10 scans and the accounts will have to be separate and the disk space decreases rapidly as Windows still does not seem to have great file handling/directory structure/elimination of duplicate files down yet.
Message edited by author 2006-05-11 22:38:33. |
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05/11/2006 10:33:53 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by Beetle:
Thanks for that information, Chris. |
Any time. |
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05/11/2006 10:36:59 PM · #17 |
You don't even need to make a mold of the fingerprint, there are claims you can take a picture of the scanner and build your own. //www.totse.com/en/bad_ideas/locks_and_security/howtofoolfinge173632.html |
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05/11/2006 10:37:16 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Beetle:
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
... great tool for easy higher security...
There is still a password associated with it.. You just have to remember the password the same way you do now and use it when needed... |
If there IS still a password associated with it, then how is the security higher?
I'm not trying to be a nuisance, just hoping to understand it because I'm very interested. |
The security can be higher because you can use more complex passwords without having to worry about remembering them all..
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05/11/2006 10:38:51 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
The security can be higher because you can use more complex passwords without having to worry about remembering them all.. |
That makes sense. |
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05/11/2006 10:41:12 PM · #20 |
hankk - that will not work with this type of scanner. You actually have to move your finger across the scanner, not just press it to it. If it is not in the same orientation as the finger was when scanned, it won't pass.
Message edited by author 2006-05-11 22:44:44. |
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05/11/2006 10:44:47 PM · #21 |
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05/12/2006 12:33:28 AM · #22 |
I've seen somewhere that the newer technology doesn't go on fingerprint, but instead uses sub-dermal tissue pattern which mean the playdoh/gelatin/etc cracks won't work...
I wish I knew a linky. |
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05/12/2006 12:43:11 AM · #23 |
| Sometimes they are slow to read because of the sweat/grease/buildup of prints off your fingers, so we give them a quick clean using some sticky-tape. |
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05/12/2006 01:21:00 AM · #24 |
I had a biometric scanner last year. It was a bad dream.
I installed the thing. And for whatever reason, it locked me out of my computer.
I had to take the whole machine into a computer mechanic to undo the lock so I could have my computer back.
I lost EVERYTHING.
I am very skiddish of them now.
Today, I use a password manager. This is a great option.
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05/12/2006 04:36:26 AM · #25 |
Pretty cool don't know if I would need that much security though
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