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04/26/2006 02:12:05 PM · #1 |
Calling all dreamweaver experts here to help me out.
I'm trying to set up my site but I just can't get the layout right. Basically this website is what I'm kinda trying to do : Eolo Perfido (Great photographer as well) But I just end up messing everything up. I just can't align the text next to the picture like that. Any help? It just won't cooperate. Then when I view it in firefox, It's not the same layout as it was in dreamweaver. I'm having trouble with links as well, but I think I'll get the hang of that pretty soon.
Geez I hate being a newbie at something.
Thanks in advance
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04/26/2006 02:15:31 PM · #2 |
yup ... he rules
anyway, i'm not expert, but it just looks like a 3 row, multiple column table which runs on forever. The center row is where pictures are, the 1st row may or may not contain a date, and the 3rd row is the text under the pictures.
did you try to make a table? |
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04/26/2006 02:17:36 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by Ennil:
I just can't align the text next to the picture like that. Any help? It just won't cooperate. Then when I view it in firefox, It's not the same layout as it was in dreamweaver.
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Those pages are layed out as tables. The text at the left is in one cell the photos in others.
As far as viewing in Firefox, IE, etc. that happens. I suggest you make it a habit out of at least viewing your site in both IE and Firefox before publishing.
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04/26/2006 02:19:21 PM · #4 |
also ... right click on his webpage, then click "view source"
highlight all the code
copy and paste it into dreamweaver
this will help you see how it's layed out
(caution - this may be viewed by others as "stealing" someones design) |
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04/26/2006 02:21:25 PM · #5 |
| Layers are a very cool way of placing test and images, but hopper is right the site uses tables. Right click on one of the pages and you can see the source code that has been written. |
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04/26/2006 02:23:28 PM · #6 |
You probably need to decide if your table is going to use pixels or percentages for the widths. Percentages are great for those with different screen resolutions, but fixed widths are easier to design with. If you use fixed widths, sometimes you need to use small 1x1 transparent gifs which you then set at the required width to force your columns to the correct width. Welcome to the world of HTML!
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04/26/2006 02:31:22 PM · #7 |
| You could also use some CSS styling (div tags to control size, placement, etc...). |
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04/26/2006 02:32:27 PM · #8 |
Good source for coding ideas...
W3Schools |
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04/26/2006 02:34:18 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:
If you use fixed widths, sometimes you need to use small 1x1 transparent gifs which you then set at the required width to force your columns to the correct width. Welcome to the world of HTML! |
Wow, that's old skool ;-) I prefer CSS myself.
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04/26/2006 02:41:30 PM · #10 |
CSS, coding, these are all foreign languages to me. I got the tables but I can't write or put images in them.
Should I seriously feel stupid right now?
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04/26/2006 02:44:55 PM · #11 |
when i was 15, there was no internet ... i think you're in good shape
:)
Originally posted by Ennil:
Should I seriously feel stupid right now? |
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04/26/2006 02:46:36 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by Ennil:
CSS, coding, these are all foreign languages to me. I got the tables but I can't write or put images in them.
Should I seriously feel stupid right now? |
No. Kudo's to you for giving it a shot.
If the code is short, couldn't you post it here for someone to take a peek at? You may be having issues with the image reference... |
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04/26/2006 03:28:25 PM · #13 |
Just had another look and now think that somthing like ImageReady or Fireworks was used for most of the pages. ??
edit :)
Message edited by author 2006-04-26 15:48:38. |
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04/26/2006 03:46:38 PM · #14 |
Personally Ennil, I'd stay away from these side-scrolling designs. It's really not a very wise design decision.
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04/26/2006 03:47:59 PM · #15 |
For layout, tables just *work*
CSS is for fonts, colours and borders - For layout CSS is guaranteed to drive you insane.
Message edited by author 2006-04-26 15:48:14. |
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04/26/2006 03:59:15 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by jhonan:
For layout, tables just *work*
CSS is for fonts, colours and borders - For layout CSS is guaranteed to drive you insane. |
You're no fun! ;^)
Actually, I use tables also but many times will nest the table inside a div tag. There are many choices with CSS - I find it a very helpful tool and quite flexible. |
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04/26/2006 04:19:50 PM · #17 |
| I have no idea about the html question but WOAH I wanna create photographs like that. |
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04/26/2006 04:43:06 PM · #18 |
The photographs are phenomenal, but I must second the poor layout choice comment. On my work laptop (very low resolution) I only "see" two images. Scrolling to the right is not nearly as intuitive as scrolling down. A casual observer may not realize that he/she needs to scroll right to see all of the images.
The result... less of your work gets seen by your average user. I am not a fan of anything that occupies more than 100% of the width of the screen. I agree with Bobster on the percentages. Although more difficult to work with, they give a cleaner end result when your page "fills" the screen with no excess to the right. Do whatever you want up and down, but stay away from stuff getting "hidden" on the sides.
Message edited by author 2006-04-26 16:43:24. |
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04/26/2006 04:53:53 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by jhonan:
For layout, tables just *work*
CSS is for fonts, colours and borders - For layout CSS is guaranteed to drive you insane. |
You're no fun! ;^)
Actually, I use tables also but many times will nest the table inside a div tag. There are many choices with CSS - I find it a very helpful tool and quite flexible. |
LOL - CSS is certainly the way to go but the browser inconsistencies (mostly IE) and the 1/2 implementations between the versions of CSS just give you keyboard marks across the forehead from pounding you head with it. The talk is that IE7 will help a lot - so in a decade or two when everybody upgrades it should be better :).
Tables or even layers are easier to think about but less flexible then CSS - except in cases where CSS don't &%&^% work properly :-) |
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04/26/2006 05:01:17 PM · #20 |
Very intersting work.
I find it very humourous to see the hubris in some people - to quote his website "Photography has arrived quite late in my life, but fortunately passions(sic) has no time, so at 28 years old I took the camera in my hand..."
28 is just puppy hood folks.
As to the website - it's different. it sets him apart from all the other photog sites out there. At least it's not flash or in something other than english (apparently he's French and lives in Rome)
What is up with the writing on the images? Looking at the backstage images some were shot on film...
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04/26/2006 10:30:11 PM · #21 |
*stupid post deleted*
Message edited by author 2006-04-26 23:39:09. |
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04/26/2006 11:06:16 PM · #22 |
it's prolly layers one after the other rather than tables.
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04/26/2006 11:26:21 PM · #23 |
| I'm sick of relearning HTML everytime I want to change my page. I've always done it in a manual program. Which program is the best? I dont want to run any flash programs or anything just basic stuff. |
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04/26/2006 11:29:34 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by Niten:
I'm sick of relearning HTML everytime I want to change my page. I've always done it in a manual program. Which program is the best? I dont want to run any flash programs or anything just basic stuff. |
The best are Adobe GoLive or Macromedia Dreamweaver (I prefer Dreamweaver). The easist is Microsoft Frontpage.
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04/26/2006 11:37:29 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by Niten:
I'm sick of relearning HTML everytime I want to change my page. I've always done it in a manual program. Which program is the best? I dont want to run any flash programs or anything just basic stuff. |
The best are Adobe GoLive or Macromedia Dreamweaver (I prefer Dreamweaver). The easist is Microsoft Frontpage. |
golive sucks, go with dreamweaver
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