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04/12/2006 04:17:12 PM · #1 |
| I have an Epson R800 (purchased in October 2005) and the last couple of times I have printed a picture I've noticed it is MUCH darker than what is showing on my monitor. I have messed with every setting I can find and can't seem to correct the problem so it's definately the printer. Did a search on Epson's troubleshooting and got nothing there either. Yes, my monitors are calibrated properly. Yes, I always use true Epson ink and all cartridges are new and full. Anyone have a clue what might be causing this or what I can do to fix it? Thanks in advance for your help!! |
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04/12/2006 04:22:54 PM · #2 |
| Is it the same no matter what program you print from? What format / resolution is the picture (bit depth)? Is it just the one picture or all pictures? What about clipart, does it print ok? |
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04/12/2006 04:30:20 PM · #3 |
I had that with the R300 when I used both Photoshop's printer profile and set a profile in the printer driver. It did a double profile and the photos were dark, flat and the colorbalance was way off.
Try to use a Photoshop printer profile setting that reads like 'use printer color management'. Don't know how it is really spelled out. Or use a specific photoshop printer profile, go into the printer settings and select 'don't color manage' somewhere.
Message edited by author 2006-04-12 16:32:02.
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04/12/2006 04:30:57 PM · #4 |
| It doesn't matter which program or what I print, they all come out dark. |
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04/12/2006 04:53:49 PM · #5 |
have you tried going into the properties of the printer on your computer and seeing if you can select the default settings for it? Maybe something got changed and you don't realize it. You could also totally uninstall it and reinstall to see if that helps.
good luck
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04/12/2006 04:58:36 PM · #6 |
| You need to associate your Calibrated monitor profile with the correct ICC printer/paper profile. Go to Epson.com they have a FAQ page about it. |
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04/12/2006 05:31:28 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by mystopia:
It doesn't matter which program or what I print, they all come out dark. |
Which method did you use to calibrate your monitor?
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04/12/2006 05:35:24 PM · #8 |
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04/12/2006 05:39:34 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
I use this |
I use a spyder, but I asked because there are a lot of people who believe they are 'calibrated' when the make the contrast adjustment to see all the boxes on the white <-> black bars that you can find across the internet. You simply can't eyeball calibrate your monitor properly.
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04/12/2006 05:44:50 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
I use this |
I use a spyder, but I asked because there are a lot of people who believe they are 'calibrated' when the make the contrast adjustment to see all the boxes on the white <-> black bars that you can find across the internet. You simply can't eyeball calibrate your monitor properly. |
That is true! You can't do it by eye and expect an accurate workflow. |
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04/12/2006 05:59:20 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Azrifel:
I had that with the R300 when I used both Photoshop's printer profile and set a profile in the printer driver. It did a double profile and the photos were dark, flat and the colorbalance was way off.
Try to use a Photoshop printer profile setting that reads like 'use printer color management'. Don't know how it is really spelled out. Or use a specific photoshop printer profile, go into the printer settings and select 'don't color manage' somewhere. |
Yeah this happened to me once as well, I had the wrong management checked I think the Printer one is correct!
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04/12/2006 07:22:06 PM · #12 |
| Thanks all ... but I haven't changed anything with my profiles or calibration .. it just started happening on my last 2 prints. I'm going to try and clean the heads and nozzles to see if that helps. |
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04/12/2006 07:44:47 PM · #13 |
It is still possible your problem is caused by settings. A student I am tutoring had a similar problem with an Epson 2200 and we were able to fix it. In her case she simply had the wrong printer profile selected.
I suggest that you get back to basics. Pretend you have nothing calibrated and this is the first time you are using the printer. Start from scratch.
My appologies for anything you have already done. Just trying to be complete.
When printing there are fundamental things to keep in mind if you expect what you see on the screen to reasonably match what prints.
1-Most important, your monitor needs to be properly calibrated.
2-Be sure all printer maintenance has been performed and that inks are correct, etc.
3-You ALWAYS want all color management to be done within your photo editor and not by the printer. If both your photo editor AND your printer are trying to apply color management at the same time then your print will be totally screwed up. Make sure that is NOT happening.
4-Be sure you have the correct color settings in your image editor. Color space is normally Adobe RGB (1998), Color management policy is to default to preserve embedded color profiles and ask if they differ for your normal working space, and your conversion options are engine Adobe (ACE) and Intent either 'perceptual' or 'relative coloremtric'. This sets up color management policies by the photo editor that is alter communicated to the printer. It is important that your color space settings are consistant throughout. What ever is set here you want the same everywhere else. For example, you do not want your color mangament set for Adobe RGB (1998) in your photo editor but your document's color space is sRGB.
5-Be sure the proper printer/paper profile is chosen in the photo editor for the paper you are printing on. In PS that is under View->Proof Setup->Custom where you select the printer/paper profile you are using and the Rendering as either 'perceptual' or 'relative colormetric' to match you color settings with black point compensation checked. This helps the display match the print better.
6-Test the Out-of-Gamut display to see if you are trying to use colors that the printer cannot print. If you have out-of-gamut colors then the printer will automatically substitute with different colors that you are guaranteed to hate.
7-In the photo editor's print dialog box (which is how the photo editor interfaces with the printer input dialog) be sure that the same printer/profile and rendering selection matches what the photo editor is using and that color management by the printer is turn OFF. Might say something like "Let Photoshop Determine Colors" or something like that.
8-In the print dialog box be sure that 'Page Setup' (which talks directly to the printer) dialog box has the proper printer, printer profile/paper profile selected and be sure color management is turned off here as well. This is what the printer actually uses for its command translater to tell the printer exactly what to print.
If all your prints still look bad then take the printer in to have it looked at.
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