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04/08/2006 07:08:17 PM · #1

I have the Sensor swap kit with the Eclipse cleaning fluid.But I have never cleaned it before,I have read a fair bit about it ,seems straight foward enough The only thing is how much pressure to use ?
DO you think it needs to be cleaned ?
Thanks
04/08/2006 07:11:03 PM · #2
Since it is just dust you shouldn't have to use much pressure. If you are unsure, err on the side of caution-- i.e. use too little pressure rather than too much.
04/08/2006 07:13:48 PM · #3
It looks like it could use a cleaning. I think it would be good to blow it first, then use the swab/fluid.

I just cleaned mine for the first time two nights ago (it took me a long time to get up the courage to do it). The camera didn't break! The sensor is cleaner now, but not clean. The middle section is quite clean, but the edges are not. I think I didn't apply enough pressure. I don't know how much is enough, and I was worried to break something.

Anyway, good luck! :)
04/08/2006 07:18:01 PM · #4
Dirty edges ,I read about that ,it says you have to change the angle of the swap when you get close to the edge ,mmmm
I don't really see any of this dirt in the images ,still not sure if I am going to give this a go YET !
04/08/2006 07:25:42 PM · #5
It's scary to do but I did it. But you need to blow it out first anyway, so why not blow it out with a hurrican style blower, and then maybe it will be ok without even cleaning.

When you blow it out, make sure to hold the camera facing down to take advantage of gravity.
04/08/2006 07:26:47 PM · #6
That looks pretty bad to me.

What aperture did you shoot it at ?

bazz.
04/08/2006 07:31:36 PM · #7
F 29
04/08/2006 07:36:25 PM · #8
Originally posted by nshapiro:

It's scary to do but I did it. But you need to blow it out first anyway, so why not blow it out with a hurrican style blower, and then maybe it will be ok without even cleaning.

When you blow it out, make sure to hold the camera facing down to take advantage of gravity.

Thanks I don't have a blower . I will get one tomorrow .But i did read somewhere NOT to use a hurricane blower. Maybe I will see if I can find one those panavise tools . Any reason not to do this will work for me tonight ! LOL
04/08/2006 07:42:13 PM · #9
Ok can the panavise plan ,I will use the tripod set up on the desk and turn the camera to just the right angle from under it to work inside of that small hole .
04/08/2006 07:47:09 PM · #10
Just do it.

I only do mine when it becomes a problem, (about 4-5 times in the last 12 months), but I use primes and change lenses alot outdoors.

The first time I was overly cautious because of nerves but like most things, it gets easier to do after that.

bazz.
04/08/2006 08:02:19 PM · #11
About dirt on the edges, I'm not talking about the edges on the long side, but the top and bottom edges (imagine using the swab, you're wiping across, the edges I'm talking about are top and bottom, not side and side). Does that make sense?

The swab is a plastic thing covered with a paper thing, but the plastic thing is smaller (narrower) than the sensor. I think by not applying enough pressure I got the middle stripe clean but not the top/bottom edges. Any ideas anyone?
04/08/2006 08:05:08 PM · #12
Randy, I cleaned mine the other day for the first time. Didn't get all of it off, but improved it a lot. It wasn't as scary as I thought, just awkward.

By the way, if you want to see your spots a bit better, bring that file into photoshop and hit it with autolevels. It looks weird, but you see the spots really well.
04/08/2006 08:09:06 PM · #13

yes it makes sense
Ursula did you use SensorSwap #2
04/08/2006 08:11:33 PM · #14
Originally posted by RANDOD300:

yes it makes sense
Ursula did you use SensorSwap #2


Yes, the SensorSwab Type 2, that come pre-made and are insanely expensive.
04/08/2006 08:15:38 PM · #15
Thanks Karin it makes it look bad .
04/08/2006 08:20:26 PM · #16
Originally posted by RANDOD300:

Thanks Karin it makes it look bad .

*grin* well, I didn't promise you a pretty picture, did I now? LOL
04/08/2006 08:23:55 PM · #17
yeah like almost 6 bucks a wipe .
I thought they were the right for the sensor .
I need a blower so I won't being doing mine just yet.
Thanks
04/08/2006 08:29:37 PM · #18
Originally posted by RANDOD300:

yeah like almost 6 bucks a wipe .
I thought they were the right for the sensor .
I need a blower so I won't being doing mine just yet.
Thanks


They are the right ones for the sensor, but you asked originally about how much pressure to apply. I think that it probably is easy to apply not enough pressure when you first try this (I think that's what happened in my case).

Somewhere I read to apply normal pressure like you were writing. But I write very softly :)
04/08/2006 08:33:13 PM · #19
Coincidentally, I just cleaned mine earlier today. It's really not that scary- just don't use the same side of the swab more than once. It took me three pec pads, but I think it's spotless now (and I've never used a blower).
04/08/2006 08:37:53 PM · #20
Originally posted by scalvert:

Coincidentally, I just cleaned mine earlier today. It's really not that scary- just don't use the same side of the swab more than once. It took me three pec pads, but I think it's spotless now (and I've never used a blower).


That's like $15.- right there! Do you push down pretty hard when you go over it? Do you turn the swab over and use the other side?
04/08/2006 08:51:46 PM · #21
I will need to be real careful then cause I press way to hard when I write:(
04/08/2006 08:54:43 PM · #22
I just read this and tried the described motion with no camera.

Tilt the SensorSwab slightly in the direction of movement as you slide it from left to right. When you near the right-hand edge of the sensor, the lens mount prevents you from tilting the SensorSwab. As you complete the sweep, just move the SensorSwab until it’s perpendicular to the sensor. Move the SensorSwab slightly past the right-hand edge to get the dust at the end. If you find you’re leaving dust at the right-hand edge, try tilting the SensorSwab slightly to the left as you complete your stroke
04/08/2006 09:12:27 PM · #23
Originally posted by ursula:

Originally posted by scalvert:

Coincidentally, I just cleaned mine earlier today. It's really not that scary- just don't use the same side of the swab more than once. It took me three pec pads, but I think it's spotless now (and I've never used a blower).


That's like $15.- right there! Do you push down pretty hard when you go over it? Do you turn the swab over and use the other side?


The reference to Pec Pads leads me to believe that Shannon uses a homemade spatula wrapped with a pec pad. That's how I do it. The cost per pec pad is only a few cents.
04/08/2006 09:24:47 PM · #24
Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by ursula:

Originally posted by scalvert:

Coincidentally, I just cleaned mine earlier today. It's really not that scary- just don't use the same side of the swab more than once. It took me three pec pads, but I think it's spotless now (and I've never used a blower).


That's like $15.- right there! Do you push down pretty hard when you go over it? Do you turn the swab over and use the other side?


The reference to Pec Pads leads me to believe that Shannon uses a homemade spatula wrapped with a pec pad. That's how I do it. The cost per pec pad is only a few cents.


Somewhere I read that you weren't supposed to use Pec Pads? That they are not safe?
04/08/2006 09:38:05 PM · #25
I just cleaned my sensor for the first time a few days ago. I used the insanely expensive swabs with the special cleaning fluid. I used quite a bit of pressure, because the instructions said to press firmly and the plastic swab stick is flexible which limits how hard you can actually press on the sensor anyway.

I had trouble with spots around the edges, too. But I used a second swab (there goes another $6) and that seemed to do the trick. I would say just make sure you "follow through" on your stroke, just like in tennis or golf. Make sure you swipe that dust all the way off the edge of the sensor.
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