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03/18/2006 01:23:44 PM · #1
Was searching the net to try and understand more about high/low key photography and found these sites. Some good examples for low key.

Low Key

//www.lafterhall.com/hurrell.html

High Key

//www.dphotojournal.com/high-key-photography-guides/

//www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGall2.asp?catID=396
03/18/2006 02:21:59 PM · #2
Bump!
03/18/2006 02:33:09 PM · #3
Hurrell images are great examples of low key.
03/18/2006 02:46:14 PM · #4
I took this of my 5 month old son. It might be a bit bright to qualify but I think it's close.

03/19/2006 03:15:48 AM · #5
Nice pic! Can you please describe me how you've made this low key,please.
03/19/2006 03:15:43 PM · #6
Originally posted by Are_62:

I took this of my 5 month old son. It might be a bit bright to qualify but I think it's close.



This is actually NOT high-key or low-key. It's high CONTRAST. If you look at the histogram, the distribution is fairly even across the graph. In low-key, all the color data is in the leftmost 20% of the graph and high-key the right-most 20%.

Low-key without underexposing and high-key without over-exposing is a technically challenging skill.

edit: spelling

Message edited by author 2006-03-19 15:16:20.
03/19/2006 03:24:08 PM · #7
Originally posted by _eug:


This is actually NOT high-key or low-key. It's high CONTRAST. If you look at the histogram, the distribution is fairly even across the graph. In low-key, all the color data is in the leftmost 20% of the graph and high-key the right-most 20%.


This should be interesting. I wonder how many voters will be downloading each image and looking at the histogram :-)

If that's the way ppl are voting my histogram is perfect... LOL

Message edited by author 2006-03-19 15:24:32.
03/19/2006 06:15:06 PM · #8
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by _eug:


This is actually NOT high-key or low-key. It's high CONTRAST. If you look at the histogram, the distribution is fairly even across the graph. In low-key, all the color data is in the leftmost 20% of the graph and high-key the right-most 20%.


This should be interesting. I wonder how many voters will be downloading each image and looking at the histogram :-)

If that's the way ppl are voting my histogram is perfect... LOL


To be honest, I thought it was a high contrast image BEFORE checking the histogram. I'd dread doing it for every image voted on. Maybe Langdon has something up his sleeve for this Challenge (i.e. a histogram for each image on the voting page? HA!)
03/19/2006 06:23:15 PM · #9
Is this low-key? I admit, I'm confused since after looking at the link that ignite provided, I would have thought the baby shot was low-key.



What is the difference, in terms of mood and quality of light, between the Hurrell photos and the baby photo? To my eye, the Hurrell photo have a high degree of contrast between light and dark with the balance being toward dark.

Message edited by author 2006-03-19 18:26:25.
03/24/2006 01:45:13 PM · #10
Originally posted by _eug:


Low-key without underexposing and high-key without over-exposing is a technically challenging skill.


Low key lighting refers to any scene with a high contrast ratio, especially if there is more dark area than light.

With your above definition, it would be impossible to do a low key portrait, of a fair skinned person, that is properly exposed. Fair skin is placed in Zone 6, twice as reflective as an 18% grey card, and thus quite a far distance from the lower end of the histogram.

Look at Noir photograph from the 40's and even the film of the day. These were definitely high contrast, and often washed out skin tones; but were definitely low key.

Low Key will be high contrast while High Key will be very low contrast with only enough shadow for edges to be visible.

Best regards,

Rick
03/24/2006 01:55:20 PM · #11
I hope people vote their eyes and not what a histogram reads. To me, using the histogram would be like voting on a culinary dish using the list of ingredients and not tasing it. The end result is what counts.
03/24/2006 02:04:48 PM · #12
Originally posted by blurbayou:

I hope people vote their eyes and not what a histogram reads. To me, using the histogram would be like voting on a culinary dish using the list of ingredients and not tasing it. The end result is what counts.


But I just DON'T like peas ... LOL
03/24/2006 02:11:21 PM · #13
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

But I just DON'T like peas ... LOL

How can you not? The way they pop between your teeth like little eyeballs.... YUMMY!!
03/24/2006 02:14:54 PM · #14
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by blurbayou:

I hope people vote their eyes and not what a histogram reads. To me, using the histogram would be like voting on a culinary dish using the list of ingredients and not tasing it. The end result is what counts.


But I just DON'T like peas ... LOL


Just mix them into a pot of metled cheddar and you won't care. :)

Message edited by author 2006-03-24 14:15:22.
03/24/2006 02:20:59 PM · #15
Originally posted by blurbayou:


Just mix them into a pot of metled cheddar and you won't care. :)


I'm more of a Peanut Butter guy nowadays... got to watch the figure, ya know ;-)

Message edited by author 2006-03-24 14:21:25.
03/24/2006 03:01:41 PM · #16
Originally posted by blurbayou:

I hope people vote their eyes and not what a histogram reads. To me, using the histogram would be like voting on a culinary dish using the list of ingredients and not tasing it. The end result is what counts.

The only voters that need reference a histogram are DNMCers that insist on voting low because they feel an image does not meet the challenge. They need something concrete to base that thinking on other than, "it looks like its got some bright spots so it can't possibly be low-key"

If DNMCers want to vote low they should at least have a rational basis for it. A histogram very clearly provides that in this challenge. Of course, that presupposes hard core DNMCers actually know what to look for. But lack of actual knowledge has not inhibited them before and probably won't this time either. :)
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