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03/12/2006 04:05:47 PM · #1
I have another thread here about printer cropping in borderless print settings.

It seems, at least with my HP 5850, that in order to do borderless printing the printer / driver upscales the source photo to insure that it prints edge to edge, even when the source dimensions = the paper dimensions. This is on the order of ~2.5%

Hey thats fine with me for most things, but there are a few photographs that I have cropped that has important details near the edges. With this magnification, those details are cropped out.

In order to get a proper print I had to test print about 7 prints @ 4x6.

The question I raise to you is, "are there printers now that I don't have to do this with?"

Something consumer level, photo printer, settings that allow me to turn of this magnification feature and other similar features. Print sizes would be nice on something larger than 8.5x11 but not required. Price is a factor, so something close to $200 bucks is about the limit that I can convince the "boss" to allow me to spend.

Thanks for all the input.

-Rick
03/12/2006 04:09:10 PM · #2
If you're otherwise satisfied with your current printer, no need to oust it; you can add white space to offset some, but not all, of the overprinting. Experiment to see how much you can reliably compensate before you start to see white edges.

03/12/2006 04:12:30 PM · #3
Originally posted by kirbic:

If you're otherwise satisfied with your current printer, no need to oust it; you can add white space to offset some, but not all, of the overprinting. Experiment to see how much you can reliably compensate before you start to see white edges.


I did... That was the gist of my post here. I have been interested in getting another printer for various reasons and this is just another reason.

Until I do get such a printer, I am saving these settings and will use them in the future.

-Rick
03/12/2006 04:29:36 PM · #4
Sorry Richard but the bottom line is that if you expect "full-bleed" printing you must plan for some cropping. The printer cannot match the edge of your image to the edge of the paper. In the printing industry, bleed is accomplished by printing the image on over sized paper, then trimming the paper to final size. a bit of the image is lost in the process.

photo printers that offer border less prints do this by slightly over spraying the paper and, as above, 'crop" a bit of the image. i have an HP 8750 and the driver gives me the ability to select a few different amounts of over spray but if you want border less prints, you had better plan throughout the work flow on losing some of the image.
03/12/2006 05:24:17 PM · #5
Thanks Dick,

I sort of had that sinking feeling it was like that. Maybe what I will start doing is cutting 5x7 paper down to 4.25 x 6.25 and center it there. That ought to make for a good experiment.

The smaller prints aren't as bad, but I get pretty anal about this stuff for 8x10's and 8x12's.

One thing that must go however in all prints, is the printer scaling the print. Ever see that pixel appear out of no where? Not in the original image, but appears because the printer driver uses some low value non-adaptive interpolation method. This after you poured over Photoshop for an hour just looking for the right USM settings.

I'm rambling.

I can deal with the over spray - I'm on board with it and it's purpose. But I will look into printing without any scaling.

-Rick
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