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01/16/2006 12:51:52 AM · #1 |
Holding at a 6.333 last I looked.
Didn't see a thread on the scores? So here it is!
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01/16/2006 12:54:33 AM · #2 |
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01/16/2006 12:55:13 AM · #3 |
How far did you look? Singled out for the brown
Edit to add that i locked the other one with the suggestion that he repost here, since this has the standard scores titled. Just to keep it all in once place.
Message edited by author 2006-01-16 01:00:02. |
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01/16/2006 01:07:50 AM · #4 |
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01/16/2006 01:11:37 AM · #5 |
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01/16/2006 01:15:10 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by HBunch: How far did you look? Singled out for the brown
Edit to add that i locked the other one with the suggestion that he repost here, since this has the standard scores titled. Just to keep it all in once place. |
Oh dear. My boo boo. I didn't see "scores" so I must have missed it.
:( Sorry bout dat!!
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01/16/2006 07:20:34 AM · #7 |
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Oh well, at least I didn't go out and fake my shot. Upon my initial glance over the thumbnails last night I saw several that were good photos but I found it hard to believe that someone would just happenn to find this shot and be able to compose it so well without having the subjects notice. Also there was one in particualr that just seemed kind of posed specificly to fit the challenge title of "singled out". |
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01/16/2006 07:27:02 AM · #8 |
This is only an opinion and I might be going out on a limb here but I'd say a good number of people kinda missed the mark and should make for some wierd voting.
I'm above a 6 but thought I'd be doing slighyly better... |
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01/16/2006 07:27:49 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by fadedbeauty: ... but I found it hard to believe that someone would just happenn to find this shot and be able to compose it so well without having the subjects notice. Also there was one in particualr that just seemed kind of posed specificly to fit the challenge title of "singled out". |
I don't know. I'm being very generous in assuming that they are candids. I specifically chose not to enter a real candid that I had simply because I thought that it looked "too perfect" to be candid. Unfortunately, I think the one I did enter could also be mistaken for a posed image. |
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01/16/2006 07:30:38 AM · #10 |
Didn't enter and won't vote on this (until the voting thing is fixed) but i will say that one in ten images that I have viewed DNMC. What part of in a crowd didn't they get?
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01/16/2006 07:31:59 AM · #11 |
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01/16/2006 07:44:24 AM · #12 |
I briefly viewed all of the images that looked like competetion before going to bed last night. I thought for sure that I had a top five finisher but now I feel really let down about the scoring of my entry this morning. On my first two challenges I scored about where I thought I would and commenters were great at explaining why. This time, I believed that I had one of the few entries that really fit the challenge, was composed well with excellent DOF, was imaginitive, and post processed minimally but well. Only two comments, but both stated either right on challenge, or great choice for challenge. I hope that those who are voting this entry lower will comment as to why.
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I hope I don't sound like a whiner, I just want to understand what I'mm missing. |
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01/16/2006 07:48:16 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by nsbca7: Didn't enter and won't vote on this (until the voting thing is fixed) but i will say that one in ten images that I have viewed DNMC. What part of in a crowd didn't they get? |
Yes, there were some that could have just been any random snapshot of a single person. Of course then you have to ask "what is the defininition of crowd"...how many people...or does it just give the feeling that there were a lot of people around and the subject is the one who was singled out... |
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01/16/2006 07:52:00 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by fadedbeauty: |
...or does it just give the feeling that there were a lot of people around and the subject is the one who was singled out... [/quote]
I think your words define the intent of the challenge. |
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01/16/2006 08:16:31 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by fadedbeauty: Originally posted by nsbca7: Didn't enter and won't vote on this (until the voting thing is fixed) but i will say that one in ten images that I have viewed DNMC. What part of in a crowd didn't they get? |
Yes, there were some that could have just been any random snapshot of a single person. Of course then you have to ask "what is the defininition of crowd"...how many people...or does it just give the feeling that there were a lot of people around and the subject is the one who was singled out... |
If i was voting I would as always give the benefit of the doubt. The ones I'm talking about are beyond that.
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01/16/2006 08:36:33 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by fadedbeauty: Of course then you have to ask "what is the defininition of crowd"...how many people...or does it just give the feeling that there were a lot of people around and the subject is the one who was singled out... |
I would start my definiton by saying "more than one person" and work my way outward.
What I tried to capture was someone in the foreground and background and with an isolated person in between there somewhere, by using a shallow dof, doing something of some interest. So my hardcore definition is three. I shot at f2.8 the whole way and had a tough time of it...so to me that was the Challenge. My top votes will be judged and given based on the degree of difficulty I experienced.
"Two is company...three's a crowd..." ;)
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01/16/2006 08:39:44 AM · #17 |
Same for me...f/2.8 was locked in and I kept shooting at a festival (definitely a crowd).
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01/16/2006 09:08:30 AM · #18 |
I have to stop looking. I can't stand the day after a challenge's voting begins. A slow, progressive, agonizing descent. The rest of the week, it claws its way back up. |
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01/16/2006 09:22:26 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by pawdrix: This is only an opinion and I might be going out on a limb here but I'd say a good number of people kinda missed the mark and should make for some wierd voting.
I'm above a 6 but thought I'd be doing slighyly better... |
Hi Steve,
I think that is the understatement of the day. I have an image I am thinking of entering in Free Study, I am sure people will tell me I did not meet challenge requirements because I paid a model.
This image I entered here in "singled out" has more then one person in it, actually 4 only one is singled out and I must say it is one of my best pictures in my mind I have ever taken. Comments are bashing me for no DOF. Well that is impossiable since every photograph has DOF. The challenge clearly stated "Drop your fear of candids this week and single-out a person in a crowd as your source of composition. Use minimal depth-of-field to your advantage to help isolate your subject, and as always, be creative."
Ok maybe DOF could have been greater and instead of "being creative" I could have followed the croud and just entered a picture of birds or something, but I didn't. I love my shot and think it is creative and it makes a statement and fits in the challenge statement which BTW is not a clean fast rule writen in stone. Come on folks give me a break, there are a lot of really good images there and if you treat this like the diesection of a frog everyone can end up with a one.
The main challenge stated again and the title is "Singled out" so that is the first thing which needs to be in the image, then it suggests ways of Singleing out someone in a candid way.
Now sorry to say a seagull in the rain doesn't meet the challenge nor does a one guy with a lot of wrinkles. I am supprised I didn't see a bunch of brown M&M's with a blue one in the middle.
I only counted about 45 or so images (out of 109 that would be less then half)who come close to anything stated in the challenge statement. Out of those I only found 1 ten 2 nines and a bunch of 5's. I do not think mine is a ten but I know it's not a 4.3, it meets the challenge and is a very good photograph which states a meaningful editorial comment about photographers too. That is why I think you are all voting so low. Too bad.
I hope yours does better Steve I know you are really good at this and deserve a good score. I will let you know which is mine after this voting fiasco ends.
Mike
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01/16/2006 09:35:45 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by MPRPRO: I hope yours does better Steve I know you are really good at this and deserve a good score. I will let you know which is mine after this voting fiasco ends.
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"Use minimal depth-of-field to your advantage to help isolate your subject"
That pretty much clinched it for me but I'm not that hardccore. I was just saying that my best scores, my 10's...if any, will go to the images that caught a cool looking subject and isolated it through the use of a narrow dof. I found it hard as hell to do "in camera" so I appreciate the degree if difficulty it takes, hands down.
Good luck Mike...I also think you'll climb up quite a bit. I assume there are a lot of people getting hit hard right now and voting while being angry, at the same time. The two don't mix well...
Cheers! |
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01/16/2006 10:46:24 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by pawdrix:
Good luck Mike...I also think you'll climb up quite a bit. I assume there are a lot of people getting hit hard right now and voting while being angry, at the same time. The two don't mix well...
Cheers! |
Thank you Steve, I am not really mad just venting which can get me in trouble sometimes. I just wish people would be consistent in their voteing. If they vote down for not following the exact rules then vote down everyone who didn't follow the rules to a T. If along the way that means you have to vote a cute picture of a little puppy down, then vote it down or go back and give credit to the ones which you voted down earlier to be fair. If the rules don't mean that much and you just vote on good photography, then do that for everyone you vote for so that you are fair. My point is people, you can't have it both ways and be fair.
Like if I shot a picture so offensive to you but you know it is a good photograph then wouldn't it be fair to say that you had to give it a good score? Same the other way, cute little birds and children may get higher scores but not be equal photographiclly to other more mundane images.
Hey maybe I am crazy and I drempt a 4.3 last night. LOL
Talk to you all soon.
Mike
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01/16/2006 12:22:15 PM · #22 |
DNMC, DNMC, DNMC are killing me softly.... 5 and something...
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01/16/2006 01:10:31 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by fadedbeauty:
Oh well, at least I didn't go out and fake my shot. Upon my initial glance over the thumbnails last night I saw several that were good photos but I found it hard to believe that someone would just happenn to find this shot and be able to compose it so well without having the subjects notice. Also there was one in particualr that just seemed kind of posed specificly to fit the challenge title of "singled out". |
I'd say there's more than one but I'd certainly rather give marks to those that looked slightly un-candid than that of sub 3 people in the shot, the challenge was set as candid to get us over our fear of this one type of photography and as far as Im concerned if one person in a couple of the shots are in on the picture the rest of the crowd are not. Whether or not people were in fact noticed is slightly different than staging the whole shot and I reckon only a quarter of the images are genuine. Not a gripe at you fella I fully agree, as someone has stated teh voting will be all over the place on this one...
When it all boils down to it the point was:
Candid (To get over fear of this type of shot - step away from comfort zones)
Crowd (3+)
Be Creative
Thats what I'm judging this on anyhow
There's always one positive to every negative and in this case its the low amount of entries - more time to go and vote on the enormous amount of 'Best of 2005'
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01/16/2006 01:31:57 PM · #24 |
Ouch, down from a 6.8 lol
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01/16/2006 05:36:14 PM · #25 |
With all the attention on Best of 2005, it seems that everybody forgot about Singled-Out. |
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