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01/07/2006 12:16:24 PM · #1
So I bought a medium sized Woody a week or so ago after Alienyst said I should. ;-) My problem is that he's such a stiff! He's not very agile, he can't bend into some of the positions that I've seen:

He even has a hard time standing on his own two feet.

Is it me, or is it Woody? lol
01/07/2006 12:19:47 PM · #2
I think alot of people have problems with stiff woodys:)
01/07/2006 12:41:05 PM · #3
Might be age related.
01/07/2006 12:54:51 PM · #4
Originally posted by Jacko:

Might be age related.

Yeah they tend to loosen up when they get a bit older
01/07/2006 12:59:40 PM · #5
Originally posted by ButterflySis:

So I bought a medium sized Woody a week or so ago after Alienyst said I should. ;-) My problem is that he's such a stiff! He's not very agile, he can't bend into some of the positions that I've seen:

He even has a hard time standing on his own two feet.

Is it me, or is it Woody? lol


They get more pliable the more you mess with them :-)

I just hope you don't enter a lot of challenges with your "woodie" I am pretty tired of seeing them as a replacement for a real person :-/

(The above statement is a personal comment and does not reflect the opinions of the management of DP Challenge or its voters :-P)

Message edited by author 2006-01-07 13:00:15.
01/07/2006 02:30:41 PM · #6
Thanks guys. I'm not sure my Woody will ever be able to bend like the sample I posted. Do all Woodies have wire springs in them? This one does and so when I position him the springs often move him. So frustrating.

This is the best he can do for sitting down. He'd tip over if I didn't have him resting on his hands.



Hokie: Thanks. No worries. I got him just to play around with and see what I could come up with and I don't enter challenges anyway. :-)
01/07/2006 02:38:09 PM · #7
Originally posted by ButterflySis:

Thanks guys. I'm not sure my Woody will ever be able to bend like the sample I posted. Do all Woodies have wire springs in them? This one does and so when I position him the springs often move him. So frustrating.

This is the best he can do for sitting down. He'd tip over if I didn't have him resting on his hands.



Hokie: Thanks. No worries. I got him just to play around with and see what I could come up with and I don't enter challenges anyway. :-)


Tell Woody he needs to point his feet when doing his pilates, and don't forget to breathe!
01/07/2006 02:40:52 PM · #8
Originally posted by pidge:

[quote=ButterflySis]Tell Woody he needs to point his feet when doing his pilates, and don't forget to breathe!


LOL, will do. I think I may be sending him back to the store! I have little patience to begin with and he's not cooperating at all. lol Maybe I can find a different style that would work better.
01/07/2006 02:57:42 PM · #9
There are different kinds. Some are more flexible than others. My two 12" woodies are 'stiff' but the smaller (4", 6", 8")ones are much more flexible.

The two stiff woodies have different joint structure. They have some cable running through them. The smaller ones have screws in the joints.
01/07/2006 02:59:15 PM · #10
Originally posted by Alienyst:

There are different kinds. Some are more flexible than others. My two 12" woodies are 'stiff' but the smaller (4", 6", 8")ones are much more flexible.

The two stiff woodies have different joint structure. They have some cable running through them. The smaller ones have screws in the joints.


This one is an 8" and he has both cable and screws. I don't like him. lol
01/07/2006 03:00:00 PM · #11
Originally posted by Alienyst:

There are different kinds. Some are more flexible than others. My two 12" woodies are 'stiff' but the smaller (4", 6", 8")ones are much more flexible.

The two stiff woodies have different joint structure. They have some cable running through them. The smaller ones have screws in the joints.


lucky man to have a 12" woody!!! I didnt think you could get them that big:)
01/07/2006 03:07:26 PM · #12
Originally posted by ButterflySis:

This one is an 8" and he has both cable and screws. I don't like him. lol


It's not nice to not like your woody! They take it very personal. If you flex them a lot they get better. But I agree there are some that are just too stiff. Next time I go to where I get them from I will see if they have a more flexible one and perhaps I will send it along as a late b'day present.
01/07/2006 03:09:12 PM · #13
Don't be silly, you don't have to do that! But, if you do see one that's flexible, just tell me where you found it and what brand and I'll go check it out.

Message edited by author 2006-01-07 15:09:27.
01/07/2006 03:11:06 PM · #14
Originally posted by hokie:


I just hope you don't enter a lot of challenges with your "woodie" I am pretty tired of seeing them as a replacement for a real person :-/

(The above statement is a personal comment and does not reflect the opinions of the management of DP Challenge or its voters :-P)


Some people don't have 'real' people to photograph. I enter woodies in challenges. I am pretty tired of seeing close-ups of roses/flowers. What's the difference? It is a subject. Like them or not, you should still be voting on the merits of the photo and not whether you like woodies or not.
01/07/2006 03:19:34 PM · #15
I'm with nudieboy - i like the woody pics but damn im sick of landscapes, i wish people would quit entering them ;)
01/07/2006 03:23:53 PM · #16
Woodies are so great in letting you be creative I think.
01/07/2006 03:31:00 PM · #17
Put me down as another woody fan.

I think it is rather easy to get a human model to portray a certain action or emotion, after all the facial expression alone can say so much.

It takes a lot more finesse to express that same emotion or action with a woody, and I always admire the people who can do this so well.

Personally, I think we should have Woody challenges twice a year, just add a different twist/restriction to it each time.
01/07/2006 03:59:56 PM · #18
When I see a woodie in a photo the first think I think of is the person cloistered in their computer room, sort of recluse and the woodie was an easy way out for a quick photo.

Saying its easier to get a human model ..hmmm...Don't agree with that at all :-/

Sorry, I guess I am jaded. But I am only one vote..I am sure lots of other folks feel different :-)

Message edited by author 2006-01-07 16:00:54.
01/07/2006 04:29:52 PM · #19
Originally posted by hokie:

When I see a woodie in a photo the first think I think of is the person cloistered in their computer room, sort of recluse and the woodie was an easy way out for a quick photo.

Saying its easier to get a human model ..hmmm...Don't agree with that at all :-/

Sorry, I guess I am jaded. But I am only one vote..I am sure lots of other folks feel different :-)


Gotta say, I agree with you! I am sick of guitars and flowers, too. But the woodies thing, it is getting a little overdone. I am not trying to offend anyone, really I'm not. I just find them a little boring now...Sorry! :)
01/07/2006 04:37:56 PM · #20
Well...I take offense...I am not cloistered in my computer room and use the woody as an easy shot. In fact, woody shots are fairly difficult if you want to portray something effectively. It takes creativity and imagination to create a scene with a woody that can effectively convey an emotion, feeling, etc. The last woody shot I entered in a challenge took almost 6 hours to shoot with almost 150 shots and endless time posing, moving, adjusting to get just what I wanted. With a person I doubt it would be that difficult since you get cooperation.

Again, they are no different than any other subject matter in a shot and you should be voting on the merits of the photo and not whether you like woodies or not. They are not prevalent in every/any challenge and are actually a very small minority of shots entered.

Why don't you try getting a woody and see how it is for yourself. I bet your opinion would change when you see it IS NOT an 'easy' shot.

Message edited by author 2006-01-07 16:39:57.
01/07/2006 04:44:42 PM · #21
With respect to the real person vs. woody thing, how about posting photos of a person with a woody?
01/07/2006 04:44:59 PM · #22
Originally posted by hokie:


Saying its easier to get a human model ..hmmm...Don't agree with that at all :-/

I never said it was easy to GET a human model. I said it was much easier FOR a human model to portray actions and emotions.
BIG difference there.
01/07/2006 04:45:39 PM · #23
Originally posted by ButterflySis:

This one is an 8" and he has both cable and screws. I don't like him. lol

Poor woody... You've upset him now.
01/07/2006 04:47:34 PM · #24
Originally posted by Alienyst:

Well...I take offense...I am not cloistered in my computer room and use the woody as an easy shot. In fact, woody shots are fairly difficult if you want to portray something effectively. It takes creativity and imagination to create a scene with a woody that can effectively convey an emotion, feeling, etc. The last woody shot I entered in a challenge took almost 6 hours to shoot with almost 150 shots and endless time posing, moving, adjusting to get just what I wanted. With a person I doubt it would be that difficult since you get cooperation.

Again, they are no different than any other subject matter in a shot and you should be voting on the merits of the photo and not whether you like woodies or not. They are not prevalent in every/any challenge and are actually a very small minority of shots entered.

Why don't you try getting a woody and see how it is for yourself. I bet your opinion would change when you see it IS NOT an 'easy' shot.


To reiterate...I am not trying to offend anyone, I just find them boring .I didn't say you were not skilled or committed to your craft, you clearly are. I find peoples pets, guitars, macros of flowers also boring. I have taken some of these myself, and seen some beautiful examples of all of them (not mine! haha). Some of these subjects can be technically breathtaking.I never said it was easy. But in my opinion, boring.
I am sorry if my opinion offends you, it is not meant to be mean spirited, simply voicing my opinion.
01/07/2006 04:49:27 PM · #25
I would tend to agree with both Beetle and Alienyst in this perspective. I have a few woodies and have yet to enter any photos of them in a challenge, as I found it too difficult to have them convey the feeling I was striving to portray.

There are several items/props and or scenarios that people have used to submit photos that I don't particularly care for, but the fact is that I voted on the merit of the imagee, not my particular feelings about the props.

Ray
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