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11/16/2005 08:40:37 AM · #1
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Well, I had two possible shots for the above-mentioned challenge, but I pulled my submission (iPod) just before going to bed. I liked both images, but thought the appeal would be minimal for DPC.

Here they are:




Which do you prefer and what average score would you think they'd get? My personal view is that both images would barely have reached 5.5, if even that. Comments in the thread or on the images are always greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Message edited by author 2005-11-25 08:38:42.
11/16/2005 08:42:45 AM · #2
I still love your pigeon skull. It would've gotten high marks from me. The iPod photo is ok, but not as compelling I think.
11/16/2005 06:16:18 PM · #3
Wow. Ten hours later and only one comment. Glad I didn't submit.
11/16/2005 06:19:08 PM · #4
i would have voted the 2nd one very highly ! i might have tried to open the beak just a tad for a clean grey line there. i also might have raised the camera and fgiven a more rule of thirds effect with a more minimalistic effect as well by adding more of the gradient BG.

it's an 'almost abstract' in a zeuszen kind of way

Message edited by author 2005-11-16 18:20:20.
11/16/2005 06:20:54 PM · #5
The Ipod is technically good, but to me lacks visual interest or creativity. The pigeon skull is another story - I wouldn't have known what it was without the title but it's definitely dramatic! The pigeon skull probably would have scored as you suggested.
11/17/2005 11:46:39 PM · #6
I would have questioned if the skull was lit by a single, artificial light source. it appears that there is a light source behind and below the table the skull sits on. (the background is lighter at the bottom then at the top) the skull is a backlit because the front is mostly in shadow, but then there appears to be another light shining on part of the skull on the camera side. (you can see the hot spot from it on the round part of the skull)

How was this lit?
11/21/2005 02:11:24 AM · #7
makes you wonder...
11/21/2005 02:21:00 AM · #8
Originally posted by basssman7:

I would have questioned if the skull was lit by a single, artificial light source. it appears that there is a light source behind and below the table the skull sits on. (the background is lighter at the bottom then at the top) the skull is a backlit because the front is mostly in shadow, but then there appears to be another light shining on part of the skull on the camera side. (you can see the hot spot from it on the round part of the skull)

How was this lit?


I don't see what you're talking about, looks like transparency of the skull to me.

EDIT : Looks at how pourous the skull is. It is obviously very thin and translucent.

Message edited by author 2005-11-21 02:23:17.
11/21/2005 08:10:27 PM · #9

don't see what you're talking about, looks like transparency of the skull to me.

EDIT : Looks at how pourous the skull is. It is obviously very thin and translucent.


If you say so. I have just never seen a hot spot on the reverse side of something before. If you look at the light area of the skull, there is an obvious hot spot on it. If that light area was because it was thin and it is backlit, as you suggest, then why is there a hot spot at the top of it?

Maybe you are right, I don't know. I just thought I would ask. :)
11/21/2005 08:14:11 PM · #10
i don't question the source of light. why would he have posted it as an outtake if he had cheated ;}

11/21/2005 08:16:25 PM · #11
you ever seen that optical illusion with the grey squares? the tone of the greys is the same on them - but the shadowing tricks your eye into thinking the shading is different. anyway i think that's the cause here.

11/21/2005 08:19:59 PM · #12
Originally posted by basssman7:

I would have questioned if the skull was lit by a single, artificial light source. it appears that there is a light source behind and below the table the skull sits on. (the background is lighter at the bottom then at the top) the skull is a backlit because the front is mostly in shadow, but then there appears to be another light shining on part of the skull on the camera side. (you can see the hot spot from it on the round part of the skull)

How was this lit?


The skull was sitting on the back of an office chair, with the seat part facing and against a wall. The skull was lit from the back using my 420EX flash with Stofen diffuser fired by my ST-E2 transmitter. Light bounced off the wall behind the skull. Shot in a completely darkened room.
11/21/2005 08:26:40 PM · #13
Originally posted by basssman7:

don't see what you're talking about, looks like transparency of the skull to me.

EDIT : Looks at how pourous the skull is. It is obviously very thin and translucent.


If you say so. I have just never seen a hot spot on the reverse side of something before. If you look at the light area of the skull, there is an obvious hot spot on it. If that light area was because it was thin and it is backlit, as you suggest, then why is there a hot spot at the top of it?

Maybe you are right, I don't know. I just thought I would ask. :)


Bone structure of birds is quite porous and many of the smaller birds have very delicate bone structures. As an example, the bone seperating the right and left eyes is paper thin. I damaged this part of the skull when cleaning it, which explains the hole.
11/22/2005 09:49:56 PM · #14
Thanks for the explanation. :) And for the someone who said I was accusing you of cheating, I wasn't. Your post said that you wanted to know if you should have entered, and how do we think it would have done.

So, I obliged you by telling you what I would have thought of this as a contest entry for the challenge.

Anyways, thanks for the explanation. :)
11/23/2005 02:56:46 PM · #15
I would have voted the skull an 8 definitely. The ipod photo is good in terms of composition and everything, but I see so many of those, why see a photo of one with dramatic lighting?
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