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11/14/2005 05:02:16 PM · #126
Originally posted by keegbow:

Originally posted by james_so:


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While I agree completely with the last sentence, and really can't be bothered arguing about the rest of it, just ponder this. What 'real' reason is there to split any picture into three?


To enhance it ! To make it look better ! and to qoute the challenge description "Create an entry consisting of three panels that tells a story or illustrates a concept or object"

These are the real reasons.


Indeed! Then any triptych is just a picture (or set of pictures) with two lines down it surely.
11/14/2005 05:27:07 PM · #127
Thank you to whoever is voting at present!
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11/14/2005 05:28:10 PM · #128
Good for you. Not for me ;(

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11/14/2005 05:34:05 PM · #129
Originally posted by Riponlady:

Thank you to whoever is voting at present!
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Yes thank you ;-)

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11/14/2005 05:36:25 PM · #130
Originally posted by Falc:

Originally posted by Riponlady:

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Yes thank you ;-)

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Looks good for a ribbon, Falc!
:)
11/14/2005 05:47:48 PM · #131
Oops. O well.

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11/14/2005 06:11:41 PM · #132
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I'm finally getting some comments...
11/14/2005 08:52:06 PM · #133
Originally posted by Agaricus:

Originally posted by Falc:

I have to say that there are lots of images which have been sourced as single images, and simply chopped into 3. In my opinion they are triptychs and have just as much right to be in the challenge as anything else.

Of course the images which unify theme, tonal quality, colour will have an advantage in my opinion.

I do prefer the ones which are sourced from three individual images though.


I agree as well, they do have as much right to be in this challenge as anything else. However, like you, I also prefer the ones that are sourced from three individual images. I mean, and not taking away from the single images, but anyone can draw two lines between a single image to break it up into 3.


I did a single photograph and I can tell you right now that I must have done 20+ takes to get it right. I really do not appreciate that people are saying that it is easier than 3 individual images. How can it be? For starters, you have to cut out each section, then you have to border each section, then you have to allow for the space that the borders and the gaps in between each panel takes up (otherwise nothing will line up properly) and then you have to paste each panel onto the final image and border that as well. This is not to mention the length of time you have put into making sure your initial image was the best it could be before it could even be cut up.

Having three different images, you do not have to worry about whether everything lines up, which was the hardest part for me. The only way my image would line up is if I allowed exactly for the amount of space that the border and the gaps between each panel took up. The worst part was if it didn't line up, it was back to scratch and start again. So, for those who are trashing those who used a single image, please thing about that before you cast your low votes.
11/14/2005 08:57:29 PM · #134
I for one am looking for excellence and according to the rules you could have 1,2,3 images, so it really shouldn't matter the amount you use, but how you utilize the technique of triptych. The only thing is it might be more difficult to convey a unique triptych using a single image, so in a way I agree troberge, it is more difficult to do it effectively....but a quality triptych is what I am searching for regardless...
11/14/2005 09:08:35 PM · #135
Originally posted by Falc:

Yes thank you ;-)

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I bet I know what picture is yours:P
11/14/2005 09:14:55 PM · #136
I am not at all happy with my score this time that some of the scores look made up to me! GRRR :)

** not that serious.
11/14/2005 09:22:16 PM · #137
Holy crap! There are some amazing shots in this challenge! I had several options lined up to shoot, but ended up not entering anything (and I'm kinda glad after seeing the entries). My favorite possibility was actually represented as well, so it's probably best I didn't enter, as it wouldn't have been unique. I considered different sizes, shapes, meanings, etc, but nothing I came up with could compare with y'all's results. Great job! I've enjoyed voting on this one!
11/14/2005 09:28:45 PM · #138
Originally posted by Rikki:

Good for you. Not for me ;(

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I need to move forward and up guys :) Thanks for the push... so far :P

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11/15/2005 12:20:11 AM · #139
Originally posted by stare_at_the_sun:

Originally posted by Falc:

Yes thank you ;-)

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I bet I know what picture is yours:P


I bet I do as well.
11/15/2005 12:25:45 AM · #140
Originally posted by Falc:

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see, now... that's just plain mean.

the nerve it takes to post a score like that when some of us a wasting away with a paultry 6.6124?!?

that's just mean, falc... pure mean...
11/15/2005 12:30:20 AM · #141
Originally posted by kudzu:

[quote=Falc] Votes: 112
the nerve it takes to post a score like that when some of us a wasting away with a paultry 6.6124?!?


Paultry??? This is paultry!!! LOL 5.1304 but I am happy .. this is my 3rd challenge and I'm holding my own :)
11/15/2005 01:34:26 AM · #142
Originally posted by mystopia:

Originally posted by kudzu:

[quote=Falc] Votes: 112
the nerve it takes to post a score like that when some of us a wasting away with a paultry 6.6124?!?


Paultry??? This is paultry!!! LOL 5.1304 but I am happy .. this is my 3rd challenge and I'm holding my own :)


Same here. I'm at 5.2774 and glad to see it there. :) I'm having fun!
11/15/2005 04:05:00 AM · #143
Do you think this might be one of those challenges where lots of people are happy, thinking they have earned a pretty decent score, but after voting finishes we see that all the scores a pretty high and each person's finish is a little disappointing when it comes ti it's placing and percentile? Mine is doing better than I expected it would, and it seems to be steadily creeping upwards. I'm pretty pleased because it looks like I'll get a new pic on my profile page.
11/15/2005 05:33:10 AM · #144
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Yay!
11/15/2005 07:41:19 AM · #145
I wish mine were finishing high. It's 5.78 -- not horrible -- but right back in that mediocre range. I do get frustrated with people marking pictures down because it's only one picture -- since the challenge rules spelled it out that it could be 1 or up to 3 pics. I like my one picture tho, and I think it looks better as a triptich than as a whole. Guess I just need to get comfy in the middle-of-the-pack range.

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11/15/2005 07:49:02 AM · #146
Originally posted by SandyP:

I wish mine were finishing high. It's 5.78 -- not horrible -- but right back in that mediocre range. I do get frustrated with people marking pictures down because it's only one picture -- since the challenge rules spelled it out that it could be 1 or up to 3 pics. I like my one picture tho, and I think it looks better as a triptich than as a whole. Guess I just need to get comfy in the middle-of-the-pack range.


Are people actually marking single image tryptichs down?

I'm not complaining about my Avg Vote: 5.4436 but that's insane if it's true.
11/15/2005 08:59:45 AM · #147
Originally posted by pawdrix:


Are people actually marking single image tryptichs down?

I'm not complaining about my Avg Vote: 5.4436 but that's insane if it's true.


I wouldn't say that, as a rule, I mark down a single-photo triptych. However, there were a few that came across like (here is a good photo, let me put three lines through it, and I'll fit the challenge). Those I scored lower than the ones that actually compositionally make sense to split into three frames.

There are single photo triptychs that I scored higher (8s and 9s) than some of the 3-photos compositions that went as low as 3s and 4s.

That said, if you see a triptych that you consider unappealing, and you realize that it came from a single photo, versus another one that came from 2 or 3 different ones, it is my instinctive reaction to score the single photo one lower.

If I compare the two that just come across as beautiful (to me again), then I do not go into technicalities of whether there was one, two, or three photos that made the image.

This post intrigued me to analyze my current voting record: Currently at 55% voted, the fact is that I gave 2 10s to multiple image triptychs, 2 9s are for the single image triptychs, and 8s and 7s are I think evenly split - there are some with 2 or 3 and some with 1 photos.

On the bottom side, I have given so far one '3' to a three-photo triptych, and of all the 4s (~16 so far) there are 7 made out of one image, 3 out of 2 images, and 6 out of 1.

So, looking back, while I admitted to be slanted towards multi-image triptychs, my voting record does not reflect that in any obvious way.

Rock on!

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11/15/2005 09:25:52 AM · #148
Originally posted by troberge:

Originally posted by Agaricus:

Originally posted by Falc:

I have to say that there are lots of images which have been sourced as single images, and simply chopped into 3. In my opinion they are triptychs and have just as much right to be in the challenge as anything else.

Of course the images which unify theme, tonal quality, colour will have an advantage in my opinion.

I do prefer the ones which are sourced from three individual images though.


I agree as well, they do have as much right to be in this challenge as anything else. However, like you, I also prefer the ones that are sourced from three individual images. I mean, and not taking away from the single images, but anyone can draw two lines between a single image to break it up into 3.


I did a single photograph and I can tell you right now that I must have done 20+ takes to get it right. I really do not appreciate that people are saying that it is easier than 3 individual images. How can it be? For starters, you have to cut out each section, then you have to border each section, then you have to allow for the space that the borders and the gaps in between each panel takes up (otherwise nothing will line up properly) and then you have to paste each panel onto the final image and border that as well. This is not to mention the length of time you have put into making sure your initial image was the best it could be before it could even be cut up.

Having three different images, you do not have to worry about whether everything lines up, which was the hardest part for me. The only way my image would line up is if I allowed exactly for the amount of space that the border and the gaps between each panel took up. The worst part was if it didn't line up, it was back to scratch and start again. So, for those who are trashing those who used a single image, please thing about that before you cast your low votes.


It is very easy to take one photograph and give it three lines. Not to be a hard ass about it, but if you just take the photo to "magnifyer" under Artistic Effects in PSP, you can easily turn off everything there but the frames. You simply choose where one frame goes, back out, go in again and place a second, go out, and go in again and place the third. You can have the frames be whatever color you want, and you can manipulate a lot of things in there and magnification itself won't be used. I even used this for my three different photos and once I got the hang of it, the triptych itself was not hard, even with three images. It takes all of about 2 minutes though to add three frames to one print. Therefore, I am one that is not a fan of a one image made with three frames and they got the lowest marks from me. It may have been hard for those that don't know how to do it, but that doesn't mean one should be given a high score for not knowing an easier process.

Aside fromt that, I am pretty happy with my 5.1 (and going up) for my first triptych. The comments are on an average pretty good, so I am living with this entry nicely considering I this is one of my first entries as well.

Rose
11/15/2005 09:29:48 AM · #149
Originally posted by james_so:

Originally posted by keegbow:

Originally posted by james_so:


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While I agree completely with the last sentence, and really can't be bothered arguing about the rest of it, just ponder this. What 'real' reason is there to split any picture into three?


To enhance it ! To make it look better ! and to qoute the challenge description "Create an entry consisting of three panels that tells a story or illustrates a concept or object"

These are the real reasons.


Indeed! Then any triptych is just a picture (or set of pictures) with two lines down it surely.


I said this exact thing in another thread or earlier in this one. If a triptych is going to be made into one image, then it is nothing more to me than a Free Study with a different frame selection. It simply is just too easy to do and not much creativity involved.

I am also not a big fan of three different photos put together that have only somewhat of a corrulation, such as for example, three different pictures of a remote control contrived into a triptych, when in fact it is again nothing more than 3 Free Study photos with a different frame selection. (I use that example since I don't believe there is one of those).

Where I scored the highest is those that show a progressive action from one picture to the other.

Rose
11/15/2005 10:14:42 AM · #150
I finally made it to 5.0000....lets see if it stays there or falls back down to below 5....still very early in the voting process though

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