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10/30/2005 10:29:50 PM · #101 |
Originally posted by azoychka:
Showing 'what not to do' is not an important part of learning....there is no 'not'......learning about photography and yourself is paramount...........ribbons are folly.......they do not reflect a job well done, as you put it. Photography 'maybe' is more than a job. I am undecided on that... You give me doubt.... |
Was that a poem?
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10/30/2005 10:31:42 PM · #102 |
Originally posted by jhonan:
Originally posted by azoychka:
Showing 'what not to do' is not an important part of learning....there is no 'not'......learning about photography and yourself is paramount...........ribbons are folly.......they do not reflect a job well done, as you put it. Photography 'maybe' is more than a job. I am undecided on that... You give me doubt.... |
Was that a poem? |
I thought it was an octagon - around and around in circles and every once in awhile someone has a point.
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10/30/2005 10:41:22 PM · #103 |
Originally posted by azoychka:
Showing 'what not to do' is not an important part of learning.... |
If you don't understand what NOT to do, then you are doomed to repeat the mistakes of others. Learning is a process with many equally valid approaches.
Originally posted by azoychka:
ribbons are folly.......they do not reflect a job well done, as you put it. |
Look through the post-challenge comments on ribbon winners and you'll see phrases like, "well done" and "nice job" a LOT. That speaks for itself. |
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10/30/2005 10:43:31 PM · #104 |
| I am so proud of us - we are being incredibly patient here. *pats herself on the back* |
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10/30/2005 10:45:55 PM · #105 |
On a personal note, I have always find that when I completely ignore a source of aggravation...they usually go away. Might be worth a try...
Ray |
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10/30/2005 10:49:03 PM · #106 |
Originally posted by mavrik:
I thought it was an octagon - around and around in circles and every once in awhile someone has a point. |
LOL -- mind if I pass that line along! : ) |
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10/30/2005 10:52:29 PM · #107 |
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10/31/2005 01:09:38 AM · #108 |
This is one of the more pointless threads we've had, and no blame to anyone's who's tried to explain the purpose of posting the recalculation announcement.
This is a website called "digital photography challenge" We learn about photography through doing and seeing what others do, and we make it fun by having a challenge with topics. Our "point" is to exist. Not to be one thing to everyone or everything to everyone. If this is too hard to follow, what I meant to say is no one person's definition of the point of DPC is the right one. So get over it if things happen that you don't agree with. Things are decided upon by majority. Sometimes you're the windshield (majority) and sometimes you're the bug (minority). Accept that as a part of life and MOVE ON.
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10/31/2005 01:57:06 AM · #109 |
| I think I'm dumber for reading this. |
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10/31/2005 02:04:02 AM · #110 |
Of all the ridiculous threads I've read from top to bottom in DPC, this may well be the most ridiculous. The bottom line is this:
As long as I've been here, when a DQ happens after the results are posted, the SC have posted a note to that effect in the Administrator Announcements forum.
I can't recall hearing a single complaint about this prior to this thread. And as far as I can see, only ONE person in this thread is complaining about it. And that person has gone so far as to imply some sort of "motivation" on poor mk's part, when all she's done is what's been being done all along.
This is worth THREE PAGES of thread-space? To which I, of course, have added another post, LOL.
Talk about "dead ends"; someone should shoot this thread and enter it...
Robt.
Message edited by author 2005-10-31 02:04:18.
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10/31/2005 02:07:57 AM · #111 |
Someone lock this up pretty please :D
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10/31/2005 02:20:14 AM · #112 |
Originally posted by rikki11:
Someone lock this up pretty please :D
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I second the motion:)
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10/31/2005 02:30:30 AM · #113 |
Just posting here so's I can be a part of it before the thread gets locked !!!
:-P
...actually, I found this to be quite amusing while winding down after work :-) :-) :-)
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10/31/2005 02:34:54 AM · #114 |
| Please don't lock it !! It's a good lesson for people in what not to complain about. |
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10/31/2005 02:52:12 AM · #115 |
edit: one more... 
Message edited by author 2005-10-31 02:54:57. |
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10/31/2005 06:48:47 AM · #116 |
Ach, this is a gruesome one. I hope i didn't get here too late for all the action :P
Actually, in azoychka's defence, i am pretty uncomfortable with all the "nobody else is complaining so why are you?" comments. The "you're the minority on this issue" attitude is a very counterproductive one, and not at all in the spirit of dpc - his/her comments should not be ignored just because they are not often made.
HOWEVER, they should be judged on their own merit, and that's where they fall down. I'm not sure i've ever seen anyone so full of wind in one thread before!
Originally posted by azoychka:
It is interesting to post it in a public form, instead of, somewhere on the site...smacks of a witch hunt mentality |
The entire site surely is a public forum... it is all here for others to learn from, dq's being no exception.
Originally posted by azoychka:
If dq's are important to some people I am sure they would be checking every day... |
So now you would like to limit peoples' access to information unless it's sufficiently important to them that they have to jump through hoops to get it?
Originally posted by azoychka:
I think the dq announcement would have passed unnoticed but for the posting of the photo... |
On the contrary, people would have had to read the thread to notice the photo. However, the posting of the photo may have passed unnoticed but for your repeated consecutive posts :P
Originally posted by azoychka:
Too often what works has does so out of habit or disinterest and 'that' does not make it a reasonable practice on a site for beginner photographers, who desire to learn. |
But not announcing useful information, and keeping it hidden from the public unless they are really interested, is a reasonable practice?
Originally posted by azoychka:
Learning about photography is what is important, not what is or is not dq'ed here. The rules are pretty straight forward. My advice would be to keep all your photos processing as simple as possible and that will take care of dq's... |
Very sophisticated, but some people consider postprocessing as a pretty major part of learning about photography, especially in the 21st century...
Originally posted by azoychka:
Originally posted by laurielblack:
the challenge is the reason we're here to begin with. |
I most sincerely hope that this is not why you or anyone else is here....... |
I find that a pretty personally offensive comment. You are looking down on people who joined the site for what its actual purpose is? Perhaps people should only join it to argue on the forums, like yourself? For someone pretending to be protecting someone else's liberties (the dq'd photographer), you don't hesitate long to tell people what they should think or how they should act!
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10/31/2005 07:36:39 AM · #117 |
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10/31/2005 07:38:21 AM · #118 |
im definitely here for the challenge. how else would i have learned if i wasn't challenged.
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10/31/2005 07:56:57 AM · #119 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
Of all the ridiculous threads
And that person has gone so far as to imply some sort of "motivation" on poor mk's part, when all she's done is what's been being done all along.
Talk about "dead ends"; someone should shoot this thread and enter it...
Robt. |
Maybe better things would be accomplished if you would read the thread....I did not wonder about mk's motivation. I did however the person who put the photo in question 'up'. Please you can do better....than criticize..... |
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10/31/2005 08:04:21 AM · #120 |
Woo hoo! I love this thread!
Originally posted by azoychka:
I did however the person who put the photo in question 'up'. |
I'm sure there was nothing sinister in their motivation. It just saved people a few mouse clicks to find out for themselves which shot was DQ'd.
When there's a DQ announcement, I'm sure a lot of people go the the last page of the results to find out which photo was DQ'd anyway. What's the difference in having the photo posted in a thread? - What's the harm?
Message edited by author 2005-10-31 08:04:42. |
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10/31/2005 08:10:30 AM · #121 |
Originally posted by azoychka:
I did however the person who put the photo in question 'up'. Please you can do better....than criticize..... |
yes, you wondered, i gave you the same answer multiple times, and yet, you still want to keep repeating yourself. |
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10/31/2005 08:17:19 AM · #122 |
| Actually, I have always wondered why the dq'd photo hasn't been included in the admin announcement so we could easily see which one they are talking about. I always immediately go to the challenge and look to see which photo. I don't think anyone has been hurt, I haven't seen any negative comments about the photographer. Since photos are not dq'd because they are bad but because they broke a rule the admin are not even saying it's a bad photo. I just don't get the problem. |
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10/31/2005 08:17:49 AM · #123 |
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10/31/2005 08:23:20 AM · #124 |
Skip - Save your breath.
There used to be a 'Thread Killer' forum club (all in jest of course) - I think we have a new group developing here with a member of one. The new forum club could be titled 'Thread Button-Pusher'.
It is VERY challenging to show restraint and not rise to the bait this poster is always throwing out there - quite often in the form of rhetorical questions.
Appears that buttons have been pushed quite successfully once again...
Originally posted by skiprow:
Originally posted by azoychka:
I did however the person who put the photo in question 'up'. Please you can do better....than criticize..... |
yes, you wondered, i gave you the same answer multiple times, and yet, you still want to keep repeating yourself. |
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10/31/2005 08:23:42 AM · #125 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
Talk about "dead ends"; someone should shoot this thread and enter it...
Robt. |
can't...as we learned here it is not legal...sorry had to go there ;)
Message edited by author 2005-10-31 08:25:56.
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