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10/23/2005 03:39:39 AM · #1 |
Have a suggestion:
I for one, like to edit images and do a lot of "help this picture" edits here on the forums, as a learning tool for all, myself included.
Problem is, every image done, goes into our portfolio, taking up space and as I do so often, bump some of my own shots out to make room for them. We also end up with a lot of broken links in the forums after I/we delete these image fixing workshop pics after a week or two.
Any possibility of having an extra folder in our portfolios for forum edits that does not count towards our portfolio size?
Another possibility would be a central edit repository we can place these in and link to them. |
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10/23/2005 03:41:46 AM · #2 |
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10/23/2005 04:57:36 AM · #3 |
Sounds like what PhotoBucket was created for. There are a few restrictions (no nudity for one), but it is free and works well.
I do agree however, a dedicated 'forum pool' for images that are posted in the forum would be great -- not much is more frustrating than to look thru an old thread that looks interesting only to find broken links. :( I don't see a reason to have comments and such associated with it either -- after all, it is for forum use, the forum would be were the comments and background (technical) in formation would be placed.
David
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10/23/2005 09:25:49 AM · #4 |
| what is the workshop folder if not for this? |
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10/23/2005 09:46:56 AM · #5 |
I like the idea but could people who are nearing their limit abuse this system thou and put their own photos in this so they don't have to clog up their own space?
(sorry to be negative)
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10/23/2005 10:09:49 AM · #6 |
Maybe I misunderstand the request, but wouldn't this basically amount to giving everyone an unlimited portfolio size?
How would you suggest we prevent abuse?
~Terry
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10/23/2005 10:28:18 AM · #7 |
That's the bugger, isn't it? The idea is basically a very good one... eliminate the need to remove "learning" type shots from the forums, keeping the old threads more useful.
The real problem is how to make sure that folks don't start just dumping everything new into the common sapce to avoid overload in their own portfolios. Suggestions?
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10/23/2005 10:46:13 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
That's the bugger, isn't it? The idea is basically a very good one... eliminate the need to remove "learning" type shots from the forums, keeping the old threads more useful.
The real problem is how to make sure that folks don't start just dumping everything new into the common sapce to avoid overload in their own portfolios. Suggestions? |
add a [report image] button that would notify the sc/admins of an image not associated with a 'help me' or 'heres how' thread |
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10/23/2005 10:50:08 AM · #9 |
I like a report image button, too.
Are people running out of storage space because the print files are taking up too much room? 25mb for files that are max 150kb is over 165 images per person, right? |
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10/23/2005 10:54:43 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by skiprow:
add a [report image] button that would notify the sc/admins of an image not associated with a 'help me' or 'heres how' thread |
Given the fact that the "report post" button goes all but unused, even on the most obvious personal attacks and even spam, I am not optimistic that a "report image" button would ever get used.
~Terry
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10/23/2005 10:55:38 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by A1275:
Are people running out of storage space because the print files are taking up too much room? 25mb for files that are max 150kb is over 165 images per person, right? |
Print files are not counted toward your portfolio space limit.
~Terry
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10/23/2005 11:09:43 AM · #12 |
I agre with CJ, that a "report image" strategy would prolly not be effective, given experience with the "report post" system. We'd ideally want to make it self-policing, i.e. there would be no gain from abusing it. The less new administration overhead we incur, the better off we all will be.
Message edited by author 2005-10-23 11:09:54.
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10/23/2005 11:53:11 AM · #13 |
This is a serious problem for me. I do a LOT of that sort of stuff and am steadily weeding it out, leaving big gaps in threads to which I have contributed. It seems to me to run counter to the pedagogical goals of the site. It's a serious enough problem that on my two mentorship threads I have resisted illustrating as much as possible (the photoshop thread especially). I fear that the photoshop basics mentorship thread will lapse into irrelevancy, not to mention the landscape/naturallight one, especially as contributors switch over their portfolios for new stuff.
A "teaching pool" for images would be lovely...
Robt.
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10/23/2005 12:29:24 PM · #14 |
somewhat of a solution is letting members use space outside of dpc, such as any personal website etc. but as a link to such photo is created, the details of the link will be saved in order to allow the commenting system of dpc affect outside links as well.
This way people will not use the dpc space but rather their own space out there in the www, and still be able to get comments within the dpc borders.
Actually, this shouldn't be that hard to do. only thing is, Instead of saving a new uploaded image into the dpc database, the image url is saved, and the system can display it all within the normal dpc interface. |
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10/23/2005 12:32:31 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Jinjit:
somewhat of a solution is letting members use space outside of dpc, such as any personal website etc. but as a link to such photo is created, the details of the link will be saved in order to allow the commenting system of dpc affect outside links as well.
This way people will not use the dpc space but rather their own space out there in the www, and still be able to get comments within the dpc borders.
Actually, this shouldn't be that hard to do. only thing is, Instead of saving a new uploaded image into the dpc database, the image url is saved, and the system can display it all within the normal dpc interface. |
This still creates the same problem of long-term integrity of the database. For mentorship threads in particular, it would be very desirable to have the sample images remain a part of the DPC database just as challenge entries do now. It's true that people can link images outside of DPC, but they can still delete them as they move along in THOSE places.
Robt.
Message edited by author 2005-10-23 12:33:09.
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10/23/2005 12:50:39 PM · #16 |
The problem is someone has to decide for each photo whether it's deserving of site-archival status.
For example, I think photos posted to the "Individual Photo Discussion" threads should be ineligble, as this is the obvious place for people to be "cheating" to get more space, and yet the responses to such a posting might be exactly what's needed.
I can see a coding change where it would be possible to "Archive This Photo" and have a script move it to a special folder and update the link, but as to who/how to screen photos I don't really have a practical idea, and workflow planning is my specialty.
Message edited by author 2005-10-23 12:51:12. |
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10/23/2005 06:12:55 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
I don't really have a practical idea, and workflow planning is my specialty. |
well, we could start with creating a committee...
;-)
actually, i'm surprised to hear that the [report post] button isn't used that much. i guess i must be the only one using it, and, i must say, when i use it, it gets very quick attention--kudos to the sc on that!
i do like adi's idea of being able to collect dpc comments on linked in images--that would be pretty cool.
as to integrity, well, it would be extremely helpful to be able to find out which threads an image has been linked into.
maybe one way around this would be to have a specific forum area for these certain threads, and make it so that the images in those threads can be moved into the archive area.
all in all, i do believe this, as well as other parts of the site, should be self-policing, where the users act as responsible/mature watchdogs and custodians, without putting everything on the sc. |
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