Why do we have to vote on a percentage of entries.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

10/16/2005 04:12:24 PM · #1

Perhaps the recent influx of concerns about the lack of challenge votes is that as I understand it(and that being said,I am very new around here)each member must vote on at least 20% of entries.With almost 600 entries in some previous challenges,that is a fair chunk out of your busy day.Please correct me if I am wrong.

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II

10/16/2005 04:16:39 PM · #2

You only have to vote on 20% of the entries in a given challenge for your votes to count. You don't have to vote on any and you can choose which challenges, if any, you want to vote on. Hope that answers.

ClubJuggle

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

10/16/2005 04:21:26 PM · #3

Hi Rick, and welcome to DPChallenge.

As Ken mentioned, the 20% voting requirement required only to have your votes count. While we certainly encourage you to vote, you do not need to vote to be able to enter challenges or to do anything else.

Without such a requirement in place, it would be a simple matter for users to enter a challenge, then post their entry on their weblogs or on other sites, and encourage their friends to sign up and vote. This would essentially make the challenges a popularity contest. The 20% voting requirement acts as a barrier to ballot-stuffing and is one tool we use to ensure the challenge results are meaningful.

-Terry

10/16/2005 04:23:13 PM · #4

Thanks but I would like to vote on all challenges(time permitting)However,some are too large to vote on 20%Not just for me but for others too I am sure.Just saying that maybe the reason for a drop in votes of late.Just a thought.Thanks for the prompt response KPriest.

Elemmennope

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

10/16/2005 04:24:18 PM · #5

It's so people are going through and just picking their favorite entries, voting those, and then ignoring everyone else. It helps keep the voting a little more fair and random.

Voting can take a lot of time, and honestly I rarely do more than 20-30% myself, but you have to give to this site to get back from it. It's fair to have to vote for more that just a few if you're voting at all.

10/16/2005 04:27:21 PM · #6

Mmmm...Thanks Terry.sheds a bit of light on my query.I understand.The site is great.Someone in the States intrduced me to it.Helped me to choose my new camera and now I am becoming increasingly more active here.I would like to join but I have no postal address for the cheque(no cc)Thanks again Terry.

10/16/2005 04:29:57 PM · #7

Thank you too Turquoise919 Yes ok from now on I will keep that in mind.Please also understand how slow 'The Challenge' is here in China at times.Thank you all.

ClubJuggle

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

10/16/2005 04:35:18 PM · #8

Originally posted by modprod:

I'm glad you enjoy the site!

I understand very well that it's hard to vote on some of the larger challenges, and you may have an easier time doing so in smaller batches. In a 600-entry challenge, for example, you need to vote on 120 entries to have your votes count. If you spread this over 5 days, that's only 24 votes per day -- few enough that you can not only vote on the entries, but comment on them as well. I recommend commenting on as many entries as you can. There's a lot to learn from the commenting process.

You'll probably also find that with the recent introduction of the Exclusive Open challenges (2 challenges per week, but you can only enter one), the number of entries per challenge has become a bit more manageable.

As to your question on the postal address for checks: I don't have that address, but if you submit an Administrative Inquiry via the Contact Page, the admins should be able to get you that information.

~Terry

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

10/16/2005 04:36:26 PM · #9

Yes I see the light.You are all so kind and I totally understand.What was I thinking.Thanks all.Do people actually do that?Like get their friends to vote.Seen that on many model sites but here.What's the point.

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II

10/16/2005 04:39:10 PM · #10

Originally posted by modprod:

I don't know - it wouldn't work well for me - I only have 2 friends but I imagine people would do it.

10/16/2005 04:40:42 PM · #11

Yes Terry,I don't feel confident enough in rplying at the moment.I do,however,compliment and I have gotten great advice here on the 2 challenges that I have entered.Great advice.So thankful.In fact I have passed the same on to others whom have made the same error.As I said I am still new here and learning.Thanks for your time...all of you.

ClubJuggle

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

10/16/2005 04:41:42 PM · #12

Originally posted by kpriest:

I don't know - it wouldn't work well for me - I only have 2 friends but I imagine people would do it.

And, indeed, they both have DPChallenge accounts!

~Terry

SJCarter

Canon EOS-7D

10/16/2005 04:42:27 PM · #13

When I started, I was deadset on voting 100% on every challenge and commenting on at least 20% of every challenge. (I had no idea what kind of time commitment that entailed...) There've been several "comment on 100% of the entries" challenges I've participated in as well (for very low quantity entry challenges), but I have had to start skipping some challenges and just comment as much as I can (given the time I have). When I vote, I still try to vote 100% of the entries, but lately I admit I've had several where I've only voted on 30-60%. The way the random image selection voting is set up, it's just about as fair as it can be.

Turquoise919's comment is really true though - you get outta this site what you put into it. So the more time you spend here, the better you'll get (at least I think). :-)

Good luck!

10/16/2005 04:42:43 PM · #14

LOL KPriest.My wife is a model and we spend much of our time on "Pro Model/Photg" sites.This is a breath of fresh air here.Really thanks.

10/16/2005 04:44:35 PM · #15

Gotcha SJ Carter.Well said.If only we all had that attitude.Thanks.

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

10/16/2005 04:48:39 PM · #16

I suspect this maybe a little off- thread but is there a travel notice board here.if DP Challenge people are travelling to Southern China we would only be too happy to assist in anyway we can.It's a great part of the world.

Jammur

Nikon D300

10/16/2005 04:54:06 PM · #17

Maybe I'm missing something here, but how much more time is consumed by clicking through entries slideshow style and recording your judgment as a vote,over squinting at thumbnails of all the entries and selectively voting on some images that meet a particular criteria?

Also, would someone explain why you would only want to vote on selected entries. Winners are determined by the highest average score. If people vote selectively the end result would only be raising (or lowering) the overall score of all entries.