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03/14/2008 07:17:21 AM · #626 |
Originally posted by gwe21: drats... and HOW could I forget Sayid?!?!
LOL
so maybe not walt or michael
Jack
Kate
Hurley
Sayid
Sun
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I'm not sure if Michael is an o6. We haven't seen a FF yet for him. I think something happens to him on the ship. I would tell you he dies and he probably does but it won't be a tear jerker anymore because we haven't seen him in a while and he has been working for Ben. We do however know that someone will die and it will make some of us cry.
A while back Ben let Michael and Walt go... How many KNEW that it wasn't going to be that easy??? I had a very good feeling that Ben was going to do something to Walt (again) and force Michael to do something he didn't want too.
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03/14/2008 07:55:56 AM · #627 |
The constant banging on the ship - they seemed to make pretty clear that this was a person.
Considering Michael is on the ship and spying - wouldn't it make sense that Walt is being held on the ship, keeping Michael there?
Where did the helicopter go?
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03/14/2008 08:06:33 AM · #628 |
Originally posted by Dirt_Diver: Originally posted by larryslights: Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:
Jin is NOT an O6 and I am starting to think that Aaron is.
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If this is the case, it gives me hope that the spoiler I read for who dies is wrong, as I read that Jin was an O6. |
Yeah sorry, you might remember Jin said that he was only married for 2 months. He has only been married once. The producers just wanted to make it look like Jin was going to the hospital to see sun but like she said she was calling out his name but he never showed up... He was already dead at this point. |
Yep...his tombstone dates said 9/22/04 isn't that the date of the plane crash? and whidmore claimed that the passengers died during the crash.
Jin flashback, Sun flashforward |
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03/14/2008 08:10:53 AM · #629 |
Originally posted by jjstager2: The constant banging on the ship - they seemed to make pretty clear that this was a person.
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Makes me think that Micheal IS NOT "Ben's man on the ship". I'm thinking Walt. Walt has special powers. ben has special powers. Micheal's just an idiot. And it was too easy to think it was Micheal. We all knew he was coming back. Why spoil such a great twist?
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03/14/2008 09:49:23 AM · #630 |
Originally posted by Dirt_Diver: No Jin did not make it off. Jin's part was BEFORE the crash. That was the last hit he did before the plane crash.
Jin is NOT an O6 and I am starting to think that Aaron is.
And my thoughts are Claire dies next week. |
I thought this was the last episode for a month or so...the writers strike and all...I had heard they were doing 8 eps, then coming back in the sumemr or fall to do 5 more..TRUST ME, I hope I'm wrong!!!! |
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03/14/2008 09:52:34 AM · #631 |
Did anyone watch lost last night???? CRAZY! |
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03/14/2008 10:04:58 AM · #632 |
My thoughts:
Jin is dead, or maybe he isnt :) I can see it going both ways....I mean we know something BIG happens to where only 6 get rescued, so let's just say that Ben forced Jin into faking his death, even Sun thinks he's dead, Jin had to do this to allow Sun to get off to save her life, so maybe he is alive on the island or something, b/c either way someone is lying, it said he did 9-22-2004, the date of the crash, which obviously isn't true...I hope he is alive, I was soooooo sad last night...BUT Daniel Dae Kim did get a DUI, so his time was running up...
Michael is most definetly the 'man on the ship', but where is walt?? It's possible he is on the freighter...seems odd though
The biggest thing imo that we learned last night was that they freighter seem to think Ben is responsible for the 815 cover up...this could obviously be a lie, we were 'told' not to trust the captian...also, what about Regina jumping off the boat?!!! how creepy was that?!!!! |
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03/14/2008 10:08:56 AM · #633 |
Originally posted by larryslights: Makes me think that Micheal IS NOT "Ben's man on the ship". I'm thinking Walt. Walt has special powers. ben has special powers. Micheal's just an idiot. And it was too easy to think it was Micheal. We all knew he was coming back. Why spoil such a great twist? |
micheal is ben's man on the ship. i do like the theory that the banging is walt, though... i'd not considered that. i just figured it was one of the crew with, as the captain said, "cabin fever"
of course, something else is going on w/ the crew... for instance the woman "reading" the book upside down. that's just a little too extra fever for a cabin, if you catch my meaning... (ie something drove her nutsy)
loved the ending. ok, so it was sad, but such a wonderful twist, having the flash forward for sun and a flashback for jin. again i say "filthy, tricksy writers..." (too bad this is a written medium... i really do a great gollum impression. no, really... you should hear it...)
i don't think jin made it back alive. i think he's going to be one of the 2 who survived the crash, yet died on the island (i think claire's going to be the other one...)
i think keamy (this guy) is going to be a survivor's husband, brother, son, etc... just from the way he was talking about the families of the crash victims...
i still think aaron counts as a sixer. on the manifest/had a seat or not, it the eyes of the public, he's one of the ones rescued and that's enough to get him counted w/ most people.
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03/14/2008 10:30:32 AM · #634 |
Originally posted by kudzu:
i still think aaron counts as a sixer. on the manifest/had a seat or not, it the eyes of the public, he's one of the ones rescued and that's enough to get him counted w/ most people. |
If aaron is one of the survivors i'm gonna be ticked! Next week is all about Michael, so maybe we'll get some insight on what the heck is up with that. |
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03/14/2008 11:59:01 AM · #635 |
Originally posted by kudzu:
i think keamy (this guy) is going to be a survivor's husband, brother, son, etc... just from the way he was talking about the families of the crash victims...
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When was he talking about the families? Did i miss that? |
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03/14/2008 02:24:30 PM · #636 |
Originally posted by ApertureAshley: When was he talking about the families? Did i miss that? |
when he mentioned how bad they wanted to get to ben... right before a commercial break, i believe
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03/14/2008 02:44:22 PM · #637 |
Just because there is an O6 doesn't mean everyone else is dead. The world only knows about 6 survivors. Ben likes to make deals - perhaps 6 make it off the island and the rest are required to stay. I could see that. Jin stays so Sun can leave. Claire stays so Aaron can leave. That's why Jack said earlier in the season that they never should have left the island. There is obviously a lot of guilt going on with the O6. Perhaps they feel guilty because they left their friends behind. Jack wants to go back to "rescue" them. Why would he want to go back if everyone was dead and there was no one left on the island? This could also be part of the "hold" Ben has over Sayid.
I dunno, I don't read all the millions of theories out there. I just like to come up with my own as I watch the show so I could be totally off base.
I think Boone is the other O6!!! Ok, maybe not. (but if he is, I said it first ;) )
Edit: One other thing - the guy who said he wanted 3.42 million dollars or whatever from Ben (I don't remember his name) - I think he was giving Ben a code, that's why the dollar amount was so specific.
Message edited by author 2008-03-14 14:46:29. |
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03/14/2008 03:28:00 PM · #638 |
Originally posted by DjFenzl: Just because there is an O6 doesn't mean everyone else is dead. The world only knows about 6 survivors. Ben likes to make deals - perhaps 6 make it off the island and the rest are required to stay. I could see that. Jin stays so Sun can leave. |
I don't think everyone is dead, but on the island. I think Jin may die though, even if the date of his death isn't what it says. Why else would Hurley fly all the way to China to take Sun to his gravestone? And since it is only the two of them out there, they probably would have talked about what really happened or made a mention of how Jin may come back one day.
Originally posted by DjFenzl: Edit: One other thing - the guy who said he wanted 3.42 million dollars or whatever from Ben (I don't remember his name) - I think he was giving Ben a code, that's why the dollar amount was so specific. |
I kinda of like this theory. Miles is his name. |
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03/14/2008 03:47:41 PM · #639 |
Originally posted by DjFenzl:
Edit: One other thing - the guy who said he wanted 3.42 million dollars or whatever from Ben (I don't remember his name) - I think he was giving Ben a code, that's why the dollar amount was so specific. |
I am an official Lost forums fanatic and I haven't heard anyone bring this up BUT I LIKE IT!!! It kinda makes loads of sense regarding their conversation... |
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03/14/2008 03:57:41 PM · #640 |
Originally posted by ApertureAshley: Originally posted by DjFenzl:
Edit: One other thing - the guy who said he wanted 3.42 million dollars or whatever from Ben (I don't remember his name) - I think he was giving Ben a code, that's why the dollar amount was so specific. |
I am an official Lost forums fanatic and I haven't heard anyone bring this up BUT I LIKE IT!!! It kinda makes loads of sense regarding their conversation... |
nah. ben kinda made fun of the amount being so specific... i think there's something else behind it...
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03/14/2008 04:25:59 PM · #641 |
Originally posted by ApertureAshley: My thoughts:
The biggest thing imo that we learned last night was that they freighter seem to think Ben is responsible for the 815 cover up...this could obviously be a lie, we were 'told' not to trust the captian...also, what about Regina jumping off the boat?!!! how creepy was that?!!!! |
I didn't recognize the woman who jumped off the boat in chains. Who is Regina?
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03/14/2008 04:40:43 PM · #642 |
Originally posted by jjstager2: I didn't recognize the woman who jumped off the boat in chains. Who is Regina? |
Regina
until this episode, we'd only heard her having conversations over the sat. phone...
this is interesting (from the link above) :
The book Regina reads is The Survivors of the Chancellor by Jules Verne, a story about the final voyage of a ship at sea.
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03/14/2008 04:49:34 PM · #643 |
Jin's off-island scenes were definitely flashes back to 2000. The guy who sold him the panda, tried to sell a dragon instead and said it was lucky for the year of the dragon. Being one myself, and having a niece who is a dragon, I happen to know that places the year at either 2000 or 2012 (at least for the summer in Asia, lol). Also, did you see his ginormous cell phone? Not a flash forward.
My count on the O6 -
Jack
Kate
Hurley
Sayid
Sun
I'm still not convinced about Aaron. He was rescued, but he wasn't on the plane (at least not as himself, lol), and we still don't know 100% that he's Claire's Aaron. I do think that he is the "he" that Kate had to get back to in Jack's flash forward, not Sawyer. |
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03/18/2008 08:40:43 PM · #644 |
Edit: One other thing - the guy who said he wanted 3.42 million dollars or whatever from Ben (I don't remember his name) - I think he was giving Ben a code, that's why the dollar amount was so specific.
Ok, a code... 3x4=12 divided by 2 = 6. Oceanic 6? Probably way off base, but if it's a code... it's the only thing I've come up with :)
j |
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03/20/2008 10:08:10 PM · #645 |
How dare they kill off one of the most awesomest characters on the show? I'm angry.
Since I knew someone was going to die, my first reaction toward the end was "no they're not", then they didn't. Then they did. And then it was "no they didn't". But they had.
SOBs.
Message edited by author 2008-03-20 22:20:50.
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03/20/2008 11:03:52 PM · #646 |
I have to say that Aaron is 1 of the 6 now. I don't see why but they said he was.
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03/20/2008 11:32:18 PM · #647 |
Wow. What a waste of an episode. |
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03/21/2008 02:42:54 AM · #648 |
Originally posted by shamrock: Wow. What a waste of an episode. |
Really? While I didn't find it to be the most amazing episode ever I did find it interesting.
It's raised the question for me (remember I don't read any other LOST sites so this may be old ground) what if Ben really is the good guy? What if we've had it all wrong?
Sure his methods seem questionable but as he said "this is war". What if Ben knew that Mr. Widmore would use the power of the island for great evil and start a holocaust or something - what lengths would you goto to stop such a thing? In fact if anyone from flight 815 were to be rescued it would put the island at risk of being discovered by Widmore, so it even explains why he wouldn't want to let them leave. Maybe Ben is trying to save mankind and maybe that's why Sayid ends up willing to work for him.
They stressed Ben saying he was the good guy and his people are the good guys a couple times tonight. I can't help but think maybe they are trying to tell us something. |
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03/21/2008 08:53:11 AM · #649 |
Perhaps it's just my complete lack of interest in Michael, since he's been gone for so long. It didn't feel like anything new was revealed, just rehash of the same old, same old. We know that Widmore is bad, we know that as "bad" as Ben appears to be, underneath he seems driven by good. He and Locke are very similar in that regards. Mostly, i have entirely no patience for the same old "tortured soul unable to act" crap, which Michael pulled off in spades. |
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03/21/2008 09:14:04 AM · #650 |
There was a lot revealed.
Ben kept his word - he let Michael and Walt go home. Of course they couldn't use their real names- but as to why they didn't reveal or talk or anything...I'm the type to blow the whistle - get the US Army in there to rescue my friends from this little madman on the island. But I digress.
Walt was obviously not the one banging on the ship.
Michael is obviously not an ally to Sayid & Desmond. As it ended, Michael may be killed, or at least locked up. Sayid and Desmond want off the island and are willing to ally with the freighter crew to do it. But they are, or had, a bunch of mercenaries on there.
The missing helicopter? Perhaps it took the mercenaries to the island and they are kidnapping Alex. If not, it's the orgininal others? Why would they ambush, and it seemed they were using silencers. My money is on it being mercenaries, and they just got lucky to trip across the girl but they know who she is.
Ben is right they are coming to kill him. Ben has killed and ordered killing. Perhaps he knows more about Dharma than he is telling - they are still dropping food for the dharma initative (it's what the plane crash people have been living on). So Dharma can fly to the island and not have time warp/travel issues. And Dharma thinks their people are still there some 30 years later? (ben was a kid, is now in his 40s...30 years, at least)
Micheal can't kill himself, the Island won't let him. Some power that island has, huh?
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