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10/05/2005 06:37:13 PM · #1 |
Ok so I woke up the other morning and I was checking my email before work. I get get this form submission from a man who works for a non prophit organization the helps fight (EB) it is kind of like a skin disease, I dont really know the details of it so I wont really get into it. Anyway he said that he came upon my photo the one of my daughter and dad holding hands, and he said he would like to use it in some broshures and some other things to represent the organization. This is a non prophit organization so he said he would not be able to pay me, but I said as long as I got credit for the photo I would be happy to help them. So he said he would put my name along with my website on things with my photo on it. He also said he will sent me copies of the things he puts the photo on, so I can use it for my portfolio. Then he said he might need some more photography done sometime later, and he wanted to add me to his contacts. So I shot him an email with the hi-res version and my info.
So I get to help find a cure for this disease and get a photo published, could you ask for anything better?
Here is the pic.
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10/05/2005 07:06:39 PM · #2 |
Congrats Travis! :)
Now there's a feel-good story if I've ever heard one. :) |
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10/05/2005 07:07:58 PM · #3 |
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10/05/2005 07:08:16 PM · #4 |
huge congrats! exposure is always a great thing..just think...soon you will be a household name :o)
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10/05/2005 07:08:29 PM · #5 |
Congratulations. It is a beautiful image. |
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10/05/2005 07:27:24 PM · #6 |
Very well deserved and earned - the meaning is two-fold of a "powerfull image" |
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10/05/2005 10:09:44 PM · #7 |
Thanks everyone, I'll be sure to let you know how it goes.
Travis
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10/05/2005 10:23:01 PM · #8 |
Congrats -- but if it's a tax exempt non-profit, you might invoice them for a "proper amount" for this kind of use (quite a bit), and then either discount it or donate the money back. You don't want too many other people to get the idea that you'll give away images ...
Message edited by author 2005-10-05 22:24:40. |
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10/06/2005 05:31:16 PM · #9 |
wtg travis!! now if you could only take some photos of me so i can be discovered! just joking..your very talented, i hope one day your head can be as big as mine :)
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10/06/2005 05:34:27 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by GeneralE: Congrats -- but if it's a tax exempt non-profit, you might invoice them for a "proper amount" for this kind of use (quite a bit), and then either discount it or donate the money back. You don't want too many other people to get the idea that you'll give away images ... |
this will be a very handy dandy deduction come tax day, as well...
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10/06/2005 06:05:46 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by kudzu: Originally posted by GeneralE: Congrats -- but if it's a tax exempt non-profit, you might invoice them for a "proper amount" for this kind of use (quite a bit), and then either discount it or donate the money back. You don't want too many other people to get the idea that you'll give away images ... |
this will be a very handy dandy deduction come tax day, as well... |
Yes, how does this work? Can I pretty much charge what ever I want. Say, 1 photo lifetime usage rights. And say the normal charge would have been Like $5,0000 and then write that off. If so that would be great.
Travis
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10/06/2005 06:07:16 PM · #12 |
congrats Travis, it is a lovely photo.
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10/06/2005 06:22:39 PM · #13 |
A wonderful story and an awesome photo... congratulations on both counts:)
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10/06/2005 06:24:51 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by GeneralE: Congrats -- but if it's a tax exempt non-profit, you might invoice them for a "proper amount" for this kind of use (quite a bit), and then either discount it or donate the money back. You don't want too many other people to get the idea that you'll give away images ... |
For anything like this, the 'proper amount' is just the cost of materials used in the creation of the image. So if I have a print I normally sell for $1000, and I print it and frame it at a cost of $100 and donate it to an auction, I can claim a deductable of $100. Even if it happened to sell for $2000. In this case it is much the same, except there are no costs of materials at all (unless you have a very good accountant)
Only 'profit' I can see from this is good karma and exposure - which isn't such a bad thing anyway.
Message edited by author 2005-10-06 18:26:04. |
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10/06/2005 06:54:19 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Gordon: Originally posted by GeneralE: Congrats -- but if it's a tax exempt non-profit, you might invoice them for a "proper amount" for this kind of use (quite a bit), and then either discount it or donate the money back. You don't want too many other people to get the idea that you'll give away images ... |
For anything like this, the 'proper amount' is just the cost of materials used in the creation of the image. So if I have a print I normally sell for $1000, and I print it and frame it at a cost of $100 and donate it to an auction, I can claim a deductable of $100. Even if it happened to sell for $2000. In this case it is much the same, except there are no costs of materials at all (unless you have a very good accountant)
Only 'profit' I can see from this is good karma and exposure - which isn't such a bad thing anyway. |
I think this case is a little different, as it's not a physical photo which is being donated, but certain licensing rights. If Bill Gates wants to use my photo as the splash-screen for Windows 2008, the value of that image is more than the cost of an 8x10 print. I was suggesting using the cost of a rights-managed stock image for like usage, maybe what Corbis would charge ....
Message edited by author 2005-10-06 18:55:12. |
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10/06/2005 07:18:31 PM · #16 |
While I'm not a lawyer, or a tax expert, it seems that a reasonable person would say that the donation would be about what the nonprofit, or for that matter any other organization, would pay for rights to use an image on their website the way this nonprofit want to use it.
The nonprofit likely does not even have to specify a value - just agree that it was donated to them for the specific use. Then the photographer is responsible for determining the value in a way that the tax man would agree is a fair and reasonable value.
I don't see that as really that much different than when I drop off a bag of items at the local Salvation Army center and they give me a similar receipt.
Where it might get tricky is if the photographer is making a profit in the field. Then other issues come into play. But as long at the claim is less than what they spend on the hobby I see no problem. |
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