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11/17/2002 02:03:37 PM · #1
Pretend you're a photography student judging prints. What percentage would you give this if it appeared as a print?
Tree In House
11/17/2002 02:15:21 PM · #2
Dunno, i wouldn't buy it.

I think if you re-do the photo during a time when the sun isn't bright in the sky, either during cloudy days or dawn/dusk hours, you will find better results. Otherwise, the photo will appear as you have shot it -- details washed out and the contrast isn't captured (you have exceeded what your camera can see).
11/17/2002 02:16:43 PM · #3
85%. To improve it i'd lose the border. It's distracting, cutting through the branches of the tree on the left and the woodpile on the right. Has this been cropped? I'd try to open it up a bit if it has, to include all of the woodpile. I'm a big fan of black and white, and I think it would apply well here - give a greater sense that you're looking at something old. It would be a really good subject to study from different angles. I'd be interested in seeing a shot from further to the right at a landscape perspective, zoomed out somewhat. It would give a greater feeling of how stark the scene really is, if there is indeed open field around it. I really like it, regardless.

James.
11/17/2002 02:21:55 PM · #4
Probably 70-85% for now. I often use border effects similar to what you're doing, I'm just not sure this particular rendering works that well. You might try creating the blurred border right at the edge instead of inset as now, and/or feathering the selection before running the blur filter.
I'd try to brighten up the foreground grass to match the lighting/sky.
11/17/2002 02:28:44 PM · #5
Well this has helped. Sort of. I personally like the border and I know that the students who are judging prefer borders on things.

I personally like it the way it is. The only thing I would change is to shoot it when there are leaves on the trees. Unfortunately for me we had a LOT of caterpillars this year and they pretty much ate everything.

I really hate to say it but i seem to have a difference in opinion to 90% of the people on this site :( I think borderless pictures are boring in most cases. I also think this image lends itself better to borders because I left space around the house. Things like macros and tightly cropped images dont lend themselves to borders as much.

I need a little positive reinforcement. How bout saying what you LIKE about the image while you're driving it into the ground?
11/17/2002 02:35:42 PM · #6
On the positive side, it is an interesting image.

However, do listen to what paganini had to say about contrast and loss of detail.
11/17/2002 02:51:54 PM · #7
this house really isn't readily available for me to shoot very often. It's a 2 hour trip when I'm home but I'm only home during holidays. I'm trying to arrange to head out to the house while i"m home for xmas so I can shoot it covered in snow and ice. I really can't predict if it's going to be sunny or cloudy as the weather changes very rapidly (it's on an island!)
11/17/2002 04:23:47 PM · #8
Originally posted by BigSmiles:
Well this has helped. Sort of. I personally like the border and I know that the students who are judging prefer borders on things...
I need a little positive reinforcement. How bout saying what you LIKE about the image while you're driving it into the ground?


Didn't mean to make you feel dumped on at all, but to offer constructive suggstions. If you want to email me a low-res version of the original I'd be happy to experiment a little...

When I was in college (the first time), some of the dormitories were named for famous scientists. One of our intramural opponents was named the Gauss House Gang...
11/17/2002 06:00:21 PM · #9
I think this subject has potential to make a good photograph. The
comments about trying to shoot it at a different time of day, or with
more interesting light are correct though. I don't know that you've
really shown it at its best, though it might still convert well to
a good black & white. There isn't really much interesting colour in the
picture and most of the interest is in the structure of the tree and house.

Maybe something with a really strong red filter, either real or in
post-processing would darken the sky up well and produce something quite
dramatic.

The frame: The picture is all about decay or regrowth. The frame
seems too 'perfect' for that theme. Perhaps something more broken up
or scratchy would also enhance the theme of the picture. As it is, I
don't really see what the frame has to do with what it is framing - what
was the motivation behind this particular frame style ?

11/17/2002 06:21:45 PM · #10
As in all pictures, you should ask why you took this photo. The subject here is the strength of the shot - there's nothing too compelling about the composition. The key thing that bothers me about the frame is the same thing that bothers me about the composition - it breaks up the natural flow of the tree. The walls should be framed according to the thirds principle, and let the more ethereal nature of the tree flow over and out. The branch direction tends to the horizontal on the left hand side and draws my eye in that direction. If there were more space there it would be much more pleasing. My brain wants to see this in landscape and is fighting the portrait layout. Why so much grass in the foreground if there's barely enough sky for the tree at the top of the frame? The tree line in the background also tends to the horizontal, and yet it is ignored. I am simply left wanting to see more in this photograph.
11/17/2002 06:44:54 PM · #11
The problem with this is that there is a huge fence keeping me from getting closer to the house. I am going to try to get to the house again at a better time of day and see what happens. Until then I have to live with this image.
11/17/2002 07:00:10 PM · #12

actually i'd like to see it from further away!

* This message has been edited by the author on 11/17/2002 7:01:10 PM.
11/17/2002 11:06:31 PM · #13
Here's the typical lisae loves this despite all the criticism response...

I really like the light in this photo. With that high contrast, there is a bright side and a dark side to the main trunks of the trees. That gives them so much more clarity, in among the fine details of the branches, so your eyes are drawn to the trunks and follow the curves around. The dark shadows on the walls also makes them seem more strong and square and man-made, which juxtaposes beautifully against the trees.

I don't think the walls should be on thirds, because the way the left tree flows out into the negative space on that side balances out the right wall. I also think the very soft colours of the sky and grass lift the stark contrast of the tree and walls nicely.

I don't know about the border... I haven't experimented much with them. I'd like to see it with some different ones.
11/17/2002 11:25:29 PM · #14
Hmmm, i like the picture, it is interesting in itself, but it does lack something. I don't know enough to know what though, and for that i apologize.

My other question, though, was this in a challenge somewhere, cause it looks familiar to me.

duh, just looked it up. it was in the free study challenge. :-) (You did well, btw, bigsmiles)




* This message has been edited by the author on 11/17/2002 11:25:31 PM.
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