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 09/22/2005 09:51:06 AM · #1
I have spent the last few days looking over the past contest and looking at DQ's. I have noticed lots of newbies being constantly DQ'ed or having entered small images. This is not to pick on anyone as I don't think any of it was done intentionally but think it would benefit the new registered users and members here. I think we need to at least have a waiting period once someone registers on this site before they can enter a Challenge or at least read all the tutorials. I think this would cut down on DQ's and images being too small. Any thoughts?
 09/22/2005 09:54:12 AM · #2
I think it is just part of the learning curve James, everyone has a crap picture in their challenge portfolio they would love to get rid of but can't, lets not spoil it :)
 09/22/2005 09:55:06 AM · #3
I can see that being something to consider for registered users, but people who pay their money are not going to like having to wait to utilize all the functions and reap all the benefits of the site. I don't think it would go over very well in that regard.
09/22/2005 09:57:26 AM · #4
Originally posted by laurielblack:
but people who pay their money are not going to like having to wait to utilize all the functions and reap all the benefits of the site. I don't think it would go over very well in that regard.


I agree but at least point out to the new members the tutorials here once they are paid. Also keep in mind I am not complaing just suggesting.
 09/22/2005 09:58:17 AM · #5
Just because you make people wait does not mean that during that time they are going to read the rules and past forums. If anything they will just loose interest during that time and not come back.
 09/22/2005 10:08:43 AM · #6
Originally posted by JayWalk:
Just because you make people wait does not mean that during that time they are going to read the rules and past forums. If anything they will just loose interest during that time and not come back.


Read my post above please....I did mention to make them read the tutorials. Again I am not complaining just suggesting.
 09/22/2005 10:13:13 AM · #7
Originally posted by rex:
Originally posted by JayWalk:
Just because you make people wait does not mean that during that time they are going to read the rules and past forums. If anything they will just loose interest during that time and not come back.


Read my post above please....I did mention to make them read the tutorials. Again I am not complaining just suggesting.

Understood, but how would you "make" them read the tutorials?
I'm all about playing devils advocate today! :)

Message edited by author 2005-09-22 10:13:38.
 09/22/2005 10:14:39 AM · #8
That is why I have posted it here for discussion. I know when I first registered I had no idea how to downsie and image properly and keep it close to 640 and under 150kb.
 09/22/2005 10:16:07 AM · #9
people learn by making mistakes more than they learn through tutorials.

this would also exclude the people who DO know what they are doing and are just submitting here for the first time.
 09/22/2005 10:28:28 AM · #10
Can you remember the excitement, the wonder, the anticipation, of your first challenge? I can. I'm not sure how I would have felt about waiting. Took me a whole 10 days or so to make the leap to paid membership - couldn't wait to experience more of this wonderful site!

Have I learned anything from DPC? TONS! Would I want to change anything about the way I got started here? No.

Let's keep the rush - let others experience the same joy and frustrations that many of us have shared in our journey to DPC addiction. ;^)
 09/22/2005 10:34:57 AM · #11
I'm a newbie and I agree with muckpond. Let us make our own choices of when we feel ready to enter a challenge and learn by our own mistakes. In the first couple of weeks I registered, I didn't even look in the forums. All that interested me then was to look at the collection of photos and styles. Now I'm digging in more and learning where some of the real value of DPC is.
 09/22/2005 10:40:18 AM · #12
Yeah everyone is probably right we all learn from our mistakes. I think that would be best. Sorryfor the mishap....now back to your regularly scheduled program.
 09/22/2005 10:45:34 AM · #13
Rex what would this do to members such as joey lawrence who has been DQ'd twice within (or more times then allow by site rules) the spec's and is still allowed to participate in challenges??? I'm not picking on him or your post just merely wondering.

Message edited by author 2005-09-22 10:46:23.
 09/22/2005 11:00:08 AM · #14
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Can you remember the excitement, the wonder, the anticipation, of your first challenge? I can. I'm not sure how I would have felt about waiting. Took me a whole 10 days or so to make the leap to paid membership - couldn't wait to experience more of this wonderful site!

Have I learned anything from DPC? TONS! Would I want to change anything about the way I got started here? No.


Well said. My experience was actually just about the same as yours. It took me all of 1 week before I switched to become a paid member so that I could compete in more challenges and also have a portfolio where I could share my work.
 09/22/2005 11:21:05 AM · #15
I go for no waiting period. Everyone is free to surf the site without entering a challenge or joining for as long as they wish. That is what I did. I then became a member when there was a member challenge I wanted to enter.

And just to show that being around longer is not always the key - I've been here for about two months - completed six challenges - and my best image so far is the very first one I entered - and judging by what I'm getting in the Rule of Thirds challenge it is going to remain that way.
 09/22/2005 11:26:19 AM · #16
understand your possible frustration Rex but I think you will find most people here learn, as I do, by doing and not by reading alone, but if they don't know what to try or what they are doing wrong they can't correct it. Sure the tutorial can tell you that you need to be below 150kb but does it tell you the best way to get there? I really think a lot of the small images are because people don't know how to get below the 150 without making the image smaller.

I'd like to offer a little advice to all if I may...When you see that small image in the challenge don't assume everyone else is going to advise them on the proper techniques of sizing and image, go ahead and take the time to comment and maybe even link them to the tutorials and threads on it. Sure it may only take them a little bit of time to read it themselves but half the time they wouldn't know where to look and find that info.

I spent time last night voting and commenting on images and probably submitted my longest comment ever on an image that was hurt by some stuff that could have been avoided if they understood a little more about saving below the 150kb. But they probably didn't know where or who to ask about it. I ended up only having time last night to vote on 22 images because of this, but that is me, I would rather take the time in comments and help someone that needs it than to vote on everyone (besides I can do more tonight). I've learned a lot from this site and continue to everyday and feel it is my duty to pass it on. I will probably never be as good as most of these people but why should I stop someone else from excelling.

Just my 2 cents, feel free to give change if it wasn't worth that much.

(btw I wasn't assuming that you don't try and help them, it was meant as a general statement to all that don't think it is worth their time.)
 09/22/2005 11:30:53 AM · #17
Originally posted by peecee:
...everyone has a crap picture in their challenge portfolio they would love to get rid of but can't, lets not spoil it :)

and some of us have more than one.
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