What is an average score on DPC?

Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM for Canon

08/24/2005 11:19:59 AM · #1

Am I right in thinking that 5 should be the average? If so, I am fast realizing that I am below average. What do others use as their average mark? When I vote I usually give a photo that I consider to be average, a 5 or 6. Is this voting too high?

james_so

Canon EOS 77D

08/24/2005 11:24:25 AM · #2

The average of 1 to 10 scoring is 5.5, thats what I would consider an average vote.

tsheets

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

08/24/2005 01:08:36 PM · #3

Everybody votes differently. Take a look at some other people's profiles. It will tell you what their average vote cast is, number of votes given, average received, and number recieved, etc... I have given an average 5.4 and received an average of 4.9. Looks like you are in the middle of the pack as well. Also, realize that many of these folks are outstanding photographers. I *know* I am below average, but here to practice and learn. Maybe one day, I'll work my way up to average. :-)

gaurawa

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

08/24/2005 01:12:29 PM · #4

this is the challenge history page
//www.dpchallenge.com/challenge_history.php

it has average score for each challenge.. that might help :)

tonyv

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

08/24/2005 01:13:56 PM · #5

Originally posted by troberge:

5.296176309 = average of Average Score up to and includiong the Time Capsule challenge.

SDW

Canon EOS-60D

Tamron AF 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di LD Aspherical IF for Canon

08/24/2005 01:14:47 PM · #6

5.5 is the average of the 1 to 10 scale. But the true average through the rain challenge is 5.2392.

08/24/2005 01:26:48 PM · #7

I am busy checking out challenge histories and peoples profiles now..thanks for all the great info.

Tamron AF 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di LD Aspherical IF for Canon

08/24/2005 01:29:21 PM · #8

wow..actually a lot of challenges had the average down in the fours. I am surprised.

SDW

Canon EOS-60D

08/25/2005 02:51:20 AM · #9

Originally posted by troberge:

wow..actually a lot of challenges had the average down in the fours. I am surprised.

There are 44 challenges where the average is < 5.0000 but what is interesting about that stat, all are open challenges...

taterbug

Nikon D300

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

08/25/2005 02:57:09 AM · #10

Scott, you always amaze me at how quickly you can compile your statistical data!

08/25/2005 09:42:15 AM · #11

I am really amazed at some of the profiles I have looked at. Some people have been given an average of 5.5+ for their photos yet their average for votes given are down at 3's and below. I don't know..maybe they only vote on the bad photos or are they voting down others photos so that they do better?

08/25/2005 09:42:48 AM · #12

Maybe they should make a rule, no voting on challenges you have entered..but then they may not get enough people voting either.

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

08/25/2005 09:44:43 AM · #13

Originally posted by SDW65:

Originally posted by troberge:
wow..actually a lot of challenges had the average down in the fours. I am surprised.

There are 44 challenges where the average is < 5.0000 but what is interesting about that stat, all are open challenges...

Aaah..interesting discovery there SDW!

SJCarter

Canon EOS-7D

08/25/2005 10:09:34 AM · #14

I think it really is all relative. Personally, I think an average of 5.0 on this site, given the plethora of talent here, is quite a good average. If you'll notice too, many of the best photographers on here still receive scores in the 4.x range from time to time. Of course, they usually have some 7.x scores to help average it out! ;-)

I would suggest benchmarking the average from your first few challenges and then trying to improve on that. Measure against yourself, rather than someone else's score. Just my 2 cents...

Jinbo

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

08/25/2005 10:21:33 AM · #15

I give 1 to photos I really "hate" to see, but I have to vote for; 2 for those snapshot type photos. photos received 1-2 from me are considered as nearly "insulting" to me. Those photos should not be listed with other great works whose creators have paid so much efforts and time on; 3-4 will goes to those normal photos. which I can see the photographers really paid attentions on the works, but because of the inadequate shooting conditions, not-so-good ideas or skills, the photos did not turn out well. 5 is the dividing score to me. All images that capture my eyes for any reasons will receive 5 at first. Then I will sort them again, give different scores. I have hardly given 10 out. only 3 photos, as far as I remember (but I only voted 3 challenges.) 10 is reserved for "perfect". 9 is normally the highest score I would give, and is for photos that truely stand out. 8 is given to excellent photos. 7....6....5....

you get the image. That is how I vote.

As for the lower ave scores for open challenges. In my case,it is because of the basic editing rules. Many good photos that could turn into a great photo by more editings are eliminated by the basic editing rules. Another reason I could think of would be a lower ave skill level of photographers in these challenges.

08/25/2005 10:42:14 AM · #16

Thanks everyone, I am new to this and I really am just wanting to get my head around the huge range of voting. I see some truly wonderful photographs from past challenges and then I see that it was given a 1 rating about 4 times...just has me confused on how people can do that. I guess I do ten to vote on the "potential" of a photograph as well as the theme and technical elements. I think this covers the limitations put on the photo due to basic editing, not as expensive equipment etc.

By the way..I really liked your entry in the live music challenge jinbo...the girl reminded me of a street busker.

glad2badad

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

Lensbaby Sweet 35 Optic

08/25/2005 10:57:39 AM · #17

Great advice!

Originally posted by SJCarter:

I would suggest benchmarking the average from your first few challenges and then trying to improve on that. Measure against yourself, rather than someone else's score. Just my 2 cents...

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

08/25/2005 11:07:06 AM · #18

The numbers here are without any reliable or valid method of assessment. 'I like rules' or rather 'I dislike' here. If you really want to vote look at some credible rubrics on assessing photos (art). Otherwise don't sweat it..........it is mostly self-indulgence.

doctornick

Apple iPhone 13 Pro

08/25/2005 11:16:08 AM · #19

Originally posted by azoychka:

.... 'I like rules' or rather 'I dislike' here.....

Then what are you doing "here" if you dislike "here" so much????

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

08/25/2005 11:20:19 AM · #20

Originally posted by doctornick:

Originally posted by azoychka:
.... 'I like rules' or rather 'I dislike' here.....

Then what are you doing "here" if you dislike "here" so much????

azoychka is saying that the ruling paradigm for voting at DPC is "I Like"/"I Dislike" rather than any rational artistic criteria.

08/25/2005 11:20:43 AM · #21

I do not dislike here so much and this is typical of some here 'attack' but do not answer or discuss. What method of assessment do you use 'doctornick'?

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

08/25/2005 11:22:05 AM · #22

I am indeed 'GeneralE' and that is not necessarily a slame against voters but to fairly assess takes hard work and great care.

Jeileen

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

08/25/2005 11:25:10 AM · #23

Originally posted by SDW65:

5.5 is the average of the 1 to 10 scale. But the true average through the rain challenge is 5.2392.

Just wondering how you got this number. I calculated that the average "average" score is 5.29688. This is through the Live Music Challenge. Is this the same number?

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

08/25/2005 11:28:21 AM · #24

Originally posted by Jeileen:

Originally posted by SDW65:
5.5 is the average of the 1 to 10 scale. But the true average through the rain challenge is 5.2392.

Just wondering how you got this number. I calculated that the average "average" score is 5.29688. This is through the Live Music Challenge. Is this the same number?

There are probably several (inaccurate) ways to create an "average" from the publcally-available data.

Really though, I don't think there's much statistical difference between 5.2392 and 5.29688 ....