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Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

08/07/2005 10:07:39 AM · #1

How do Canon users compare this program for RAW files than Canon's own File Viewer Utility program? Is it a lot better?

ebertdj

Canon EOS-20D

Canon EF 17-35mm f/2.8L

08/07/2005 10:25:59 AM · #2

Ummm - no idea - free bump - I only use PS CS

soup

Canon EOS-30D

08/07/2005 10:36:27 AM · #3

it's much better...

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS

08/07/2005 10:38:11 AM · #4

I use RSE exclusively...it's SOOOO user-friendly. Give it a try! :)

aboutimage

Canon EOS-30D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

08/07/2005 10:51:15 AM · #5

Thanks for the tip on RSE, Laurie. I just downloaded it. It looks very well put together.

08/07/2005 11:21:48 AM · #6

I just downloaded it so I'm having a play with it now! It looks good!

totaldis

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

08/07/2005 11:31:51 AM · #7

well i have CS2's raw editor and my NikonViewer NEF editor. i've been using cs2, any reason i should use the NV editor? or even RawShooter?

dwterry

Canon EOS-1D Mark III

08/07/2005 11:39:06 AM · #8

I know you asked for a comparison between RSE and Canon's converter... but I wanted to mention one thing in comparison to Adobe's raw converter in PS CS.

The one thing I miss in using RSE versus Adobe's raw converter is the ability to go straight into PhotoShop without the need for a temporary file.

With RSE, I need to produce a file. I either do a JPEG (the downside being that it is only 8 bits) or else a 16-bit TIFF (which is huge). I typically choose the TIFF file if I know that the exposure is going to be particularly challenging, but in most cases I choose JPEG.

You *can*, of course, tell RSE to automatically launch PhotoShop (and I do that sometimes). But I find that with RSE I am typically doing "bulk" conversions (lots of files at once) and so I very seldom use this feature. But then... that's actually a positive for RSE because Adobe doesn't have bulk conversions (at least, CS ... I don'tknow about CS2).

Anyway, my point is ... I often end up with THREE versions of the files when I am using RSE. I have: 1) the original raw file, 2) RSE's intermediate file, and 3) a photoshop'd version of the RSE output where I have applied my final adjustments. Whereas with PhotoShop I have only two files... the raw file, and my final photoshop'd version of the file because there is no intermediate step.

So... if I had one wish it would be an option in RSE to sometimes go straight into PhotoShop without a temporary file ... and to do it in 16-bit mode. I probably wouldn't use it real often, but when I do it would be nice.

(okay I hear it coming: people are going to tell me I could just delete the temporary files ... that is true, but I'm such a packrat, I have a hard time deleting any of my images, whether temporary or otherwise)

08/07/2005 11:45:48 AM · #9

Originally posted by dwterry:

Thanks dwterry. It is a good point. I have Photoshop 7 which unfortunately doesn't have the RAW converter built in. I can't afford CS at the moment.

dpdave

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark III

08/07/2005 12:02:42 PM · #10

Originally posted by dwterry:

But I find that with RSE I am typically doing "bulk" conversions (lots of files at once) and so I very seldom use this feature. But then... that's actually a positive for RSE because Adobe doesn't have bulk conversions (at least, CS ... I don'tknow about CS2).

Actually, yes, CS2 will do batch RAW conversions. It will also do batch adjustments in the Adobe RAW program. Very handy.

awpollard

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

08/07/2005 12:12:22 PM · #11

I was going to ask if you are using Canon Digital Photo Professional but just checked and it does not come with the Digital Rebel...sorry

It does come with the Rebel 350 XT and > and the Updated version 1.6.1 is pretty sweet to work with. I created several recipes the other night and Processed almost 300 low light raw shots in a very short period of time. It works quite nicely for me.

I like free...free is good.

Canon Digital Photo Professional

Gil P

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

08/07/2005 12:13:35 PM · #12

with PS9 (CS2) there is really no need for any other raw conversion program (unless you shoot nef). Adobe as catched up to the demand and exeeded expectations with regards to raw treatment.

AdobeBridge is a great example of this....as the view applies auto adjusts as you browse.

aboutimage

Canon EOS-30D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

08/07/2005 12:31:22 PM · #13

I don't have CS2 yet, but I do have both the Canon Digital Photo Professional and (recently downloaded) RSE 2005. RSE looks really good. I've never shot RAW before, but reading the docs for RSE certainly takes the mystery out of it.

As soon as my camera is out of the shop, it's time to play!!

brianlh

Canon EOS-450D Rebel XSi

08/07/2005 01:24:46 PM · #14

I've been using the CaptureOne Pro Demo lately and love it.. but of course, it's much much more expensive than FREE (RSE), so I'll be using RSE when this is finished. They're both great programs, but I just got into the niche of using C1 before I tried out RSE.

The batch conversion has already saved me countless hours in the past month. I dread the old days of having to individually tinker with each file in PS and then wait for it to open it. With C1 and RSE you can copy the settings to every file you want and then keep working while it converts them in the background! Wonderful.

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

08/07/2005 01:32:00 PM · #15

RSE looks really good, I've been playing with it for about the last hour but when I output the files they look a bit washed out...colours aren't what they should be even though they look fine in RSE? I think I just need to play with it some more. It's now 1:30am and I should be getting some sleep! :p

Just an example.

Message edited by author 2005-08-07 13:36:58.

Rikki

Canon EOS-20D

08/07/2005 01:38:04 PM · #16

where can i get RSE? links please?

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

08/07/2005 01:40:05 PM · #17

Originally posted by rikki11:

where can i get RSE? links please?

RawShooter Essentials 2005

Rikki

Canon EOS-20D

08/07/2005 01:41:05 PM · #18

sweet! thanks makka!

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

08/07/2005 01:42:08 PM · #19

Originally posted by rikki11:

sweet! thanks makka!

Anytime! Enjoy!

Mr_Pants

SiPix Blink

08/07/2005 02:25:22 PM · #20

Originally posted by Makka:

RSE looks really good, I've been playing with it for about the last hour but when I output the files they look a bit washed out...colours aren't what they should be even though they look fine in RSE?

Colour space incorrect, maybe? Could it be set to Adobe RGB instead of sRGB? Just a thought.

faidoi

Pentax K10D

08/07/2005 02:27:13 PM · #21

You must have Pentium III or higher to use it. Unfortunately I have a Pentium II so I wasn't able to start the program.

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8D ED

08/07/2005 08:31:59 PM · #22

Originally posted by AJAger:

Originally posted by Makka:
RSE looks really good, I've been playing with it for about the last hour but when I output the files they look a bit washed out...colours aren't what they should be even though they look fine in RSE?

Colour space incorrect, maybe? Could it be set to Adobe RGB instead of sRGB? Just a thought.

OK! I'm figuring it is my sRGB colour space setting. Because I have modified this on my PC because my monitor is a little dark (for gaming and video), so it appears to be using this setting. I guess I'll have to reset this setting and try again?

nomad469

Nikon D700

08/07/2005 08:47:03 PM · #23

Originally posted by Gil P:

NEF works just fine with CS2 raw conversion

08/07/2005 09:08:53 PM · #24

OK, here's another question. How can I reset my computers sRGB setting?