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10/18/2002 12:12:00 PM · #101 |
My previous style isn't to hurt peopel but i can't help it if someone feels that way. I am just apologizing for that. People tend to take all arguments on here very PERSONALLY for one reason or another. I am saying DON'T take it personally. I am stating my opinions and position, as passionately as I normally do. If you don't agree, then we can agree to disagree, or you can write a counter argument, that's fine.
Originally posted by UberFish:
Originally posted by paganini:
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People tend to take it very personally for some reason or another. And if you feel offended, i am sorry, but that wasn't the intent.
So now you know that what you say can hurt peoples feeling, both in these forums and in the comments area. And now if we see more in your previous style of dispensation, would it would be safe to assume intent?[/i]
* This message has been edited by the author on 10/18/2002 12:10:01 PM.
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10/18/2002 12:25:01 PM · #102 |
Originally posted by paganini:
Look, if you're going to direct it at me, then direct it at me, but don't put it as it is for "everyone" :)
It wasn't directed it at you. You aren't the only one acting in the
manner I was commenting upon.
You know, you have posted similar posts stating some of the same points (i.e. #2) but now you're backing out of your original position.
Perhaps reality dawned.
And I was serious about the editing comment too.
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10/18/2002 12:26:54 PM · #103 |
As a former music teacher, I have got to add that I taught music, not because i was a professional, but because I have a love of music that I wanted to share with young people. Guess what, we studied Bach, Beethoven, BARNEY, and pop rock, among others. Also, I had a music teacher/band director that had been professional. He was, without a doubt, the worst teacher I ever had simply because he was so good that he could not understand why any student would have trouble with anything.
As far as critiquing a photo. Yes, I am an amateur (I think I may be close to that, anyway, instead of fresh raw beginner). And though I may not have all the knowledge of f-stops, exposure, etc, I usually can tell if a picture is "good" or not, whether or not it is cute/cuddly or abstract. Some of my favorite pics on DPC were "misunderstood" by the voters. Does this mean I shouldn't comment/critique pics. Maybe. If anyone holds the same view as Pag, in that unless you are a professional with at least 10 or 20 years experience, email me each week with the title of your picture, and I will neither comment or vote on it. Fair?
As far as cute and cuddly goes (this includes children), I took an abstract photo the other night that I was pleased with. It took me about 20 minutes. In 9 months, I have taken maybe 2 pictures of my son that I am please with. Why? Cause taking pictures of children is more difficult. They don't pose naturally, and when they see a camera they either go for it, cry, or get a little silly smile on their face. For that reason, when I see a picture of a child, I can truly appreciate the "natural" look many of them have. I don't NOT vote them down, just cause it is a kid pic, I give them the same time that I would give a "disturbing pic."
As far as what score will win? I am hoping 5.3 or so, that way I will be in the top 135!
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10/18/2002 12:29:16 PM · #104 |
Originally posted by paganini:
Most music teachers, at least in the US, are not qualified to teach musc because they are not professionals and haven't reached that level. If they are, they wouldn't be teaching in high school. That's why kids take private lessons if they want to learn an instrument with other teachers, not from their schools.
That may be the case in the US. It isn't in the UK.
The way you describe how your teacher "locked you in a room with HIGH
volume" is almost laughable. People think that turning up the volume,
etc. you'll get more out of it, it's not necessary to do that. In fact,
if you lower the volume you can force yourself to listen MORE carefully. He's forcing you to take Beatles seriouesly becuase that's his favorite music, he's enforcing his opinion on you just as my high school orchestra conductor tries to tell us what she thinks in a piece of music that she doesn't understand. At 16 I was already playing much better than she is (she happens to also play the violin, as her "focus" instrument in college). I studied with university professors and professional mainly. If you don't know the difference in music, just as in arts, you can't critically judge a piece.
I was talking about the 1812 Overture - do you think anything with cannons
in it was designed to be played softly ?!?
Are the Beatles interesting? Sure, but to compare them as others have
in this thread as equals to Beethoven is simply ludicrous. Popular
music is popular for one reason and one reason only: They're SIMPLE to
understand. And too often or not the words in popluar music gives the
meaning/emotion and not necessarily the music, you might as well be
reading poetry.
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As others have said - Shakespeare falls into the same category of 'populist'
work. It isn't automatically without merit.
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10/18/2002 12:30:54 PM · #105 |
Originally posted by Gekker:
How does any of this actually matter? Really. I understand what you are saying, I just do not see the point of argueing it here. I do not know what you are trying to accomplish. If there was a goal here maybe I could understand. I do not need analogies, I need reason.
Oh, when did Yngwie start looking like Meatloaf?
In 1992 Honey. See ya when I get home.
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10/18/2002 12:53:51 PM · #106 |
| Ku/paganini, be reminded of The Sangha "full of presumption, self-conceit and arrogance, they fall in the dreadful Avici. |
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10/18/2002 01:12:43 PM · #107 |
This thread has gone very far off topic and has certainly outlived its usefulness. Can we stop turning every thread into an argument?
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