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07/19/2005 03:08:58 AM · #1
Hi friends, I have a couple of questions. If you know these please give reply.
1. How to manage hard sunlight while taking photograph at afternoon?
2. How to make my picture noise free while taking picture in low light condition or higher ISO?

Thank you.

Rudra
07/19/2005 03:16:00 AM · #2
1. You may want to invest in a neutral density filter (it's like sunglasses for your camera lens), a gradual nd filter if you intend to shoot landscapes, a circular polarizer may help a bit too.

ND filters (neutral density filters) will decrease from 1 to 2 stops of light depending on the one you use.

2. Lot's of DPCers use NeatImage to decrease noise. Use it sparingly as it can make images look like plastic.
Using a tripod or monopod will allow for a slower shutterspeed thus potential lower noise.

Message edited by author 2005-07-19 03:18:46.
07/19/2005 03:20:32 AM · #3
Gave you a "9" on this shot:
07/19/2005 03:40:01 AM · #4
Thanks Welland Lau (Faidoi) for your suggestion and kind comments on my photograph.
07/19/2005 03:53:33 AM · #5
Originally posted by PERCOM:

...
2. How to make my picture noise free while taking picture in low light condition or higher ISO?

Thank you.

Rudra


Get a Canon :D LOL joking
07/19/2005 04:21:00 AM · #6
Originally posted by PERCOM:

1. How to manage hard sunlight while taking photograph at afternoon?


Try to shoot ealier in the day or later at in the evening.

Originally posted by PERCOM:

2. How to make my picture noise free while taking picture in low light condition or higher ISO?


Try shooting when you have more light.

Originally posted by PERCOM:

Thank you.

Rudra v


Your welcome!

Seriously. Light is all important in photography. Depending on your camera, to get the best shots you have to do what the light allows you to do. In low light situation, actually most situations, use a tripod. Always shoot at your lowest ISO setting unless you have a reason not to. (If you don't know what I mean you don't have a reason not to!) Try shooting most of your shots a couple hours after sunrise, a couple before sunset. And most of all shoot shoot shoot. It's digital. Throw away what don't work keep what does. Ask questions if your not sure!
07/19/2005 01:03:21 PM · #7
Originally posted by PERCOM:

Hi friends, I have a couple of questions. If you know these please give reply.
1. How to manage hard sunlight while taking photograph at afternoon?

There is really no ideal way except waiting till the sun starts to rise or set. You can use fill in light via flash and/or reflectors to avoid the harsh contrasts. ND and CPL filters may help somewhat. Also converting the image to B/W makes the contrasts very artistic.

2. How to make my picture noise free while taking picture in low light condition or higher ISO?

You can't. Use flash if possible. Also use faster lens to reduce the ISO as much as possible. Make sure your exposure is as spot on as possible by using the histogram. If you make pp adjustments with improperly exposed image at high ISO, you mainly get more noise. There are also specific programs like Noiseninja to reduce them during PP. I don't know how effective they are. Sometimes noise is an artistic addition and you may want it in the image.
Thank you.

Rudra


Message edited by author 2005-07-19 13:05:11.
07/19/2005 01:06:59 PM · #8
I move my exposure compensation to -.5 ot -1.25 stops depending on the light. I went shopping for an ND filter, but I'd have to duct-tape it to my little P&S.
07/19/2005 01:07:57 PM · #9
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

I move my exposure compensation to -.5 ot -1.25 stops depending on the light. I went shopping for an ND filter, but I'd have to duct-tape it to my little P&S.


Isn't there an adapter you can get so you can use filters?
07/19/2005 02:10:38 PM · #10
Which do people/you seem to prefer? Noise Ninja or Neat Image? And although I see that they both have PS plug-ins, I don't see any plug-ins for MS Digital Image Pro. :-/

I'm going to buy one of them, but would appreciate any feedback or reviews from experienced users.

(Sorry if I'm hijacking this thread - I think it's the same topic...)

Thanks!
07/19/2005 02:13:52 PM · #11
Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

I move my exposure compensation to -.5 ot -1.25 stops depending on the light. I went shopping for an ND filter, but I'd have to duct-tape it to my little P&S.


Isn't there an adapter you can get so you can use filters?


I have an adapter for my tele lens, which is the only adapter there is for my camera, I'm pretty sure. At least at the shop I went to, none of the ND filters were a fit.
:-(
07/19/2005 03:54:42 PM · #12
You should be able to find ND filters for that adapter. A quick search found Hoya ND4 in 37mm and 52mm, also can get ND2 in 52mm (wasn't sure what adapter you have). They're about $20US or so online. Not sure about suppliers up North. :-)
07/19/2005 03:56:59 PM · #13
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

I move my exposure compensation to -.5 ot -1.25 stops depending on the light. I went shopping for an ND filter, but I'd have to duct-tape it to my little P&S.


Isn't there an adapter you can get so you can use filters?


I have an adapter for my tele lens, which is the only adapter there is for my camera, I'm pretty sure. At least at the shop I went to, none of the ND filters were a fit.
:-(


What's the thread size of the adapter, 52mm? It might be 58mm. Those are very common sizes so filters should not be a problem to find.
07/19/2005 04:02:00 PM · #14
Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

I move my exposure compensation to -.5 ot -1.25 stops depending on the light. I went shopping for an ND filter, but I'd have to duct-tape it to my little P&S.


Isn't there an adapter you can get so you can use filters?


I have an adapter for my tele lens, which is the only adapter there is for my camera, I'm pretty sure. At least at the shop I went to, none of the ND filters were a fit.
:-(


What's the thread size of the adapter, 52mm? It might be 58mm. Those are very common sizes so filters should not be a problem to find.


I dunno, I'm camera-tech-challenged. My adapter is Canon code-named "LA-DC52D", and the end that I'd put a filter on is 52mm in diameter. I guess I could go to a bigger camera shop and check again.
:-/
07/19/2005 04:05:18 PM · #15
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

I move my exposure compensation to -.5 ot -1.25 stops depending on the light. I went shopping for an ND filter, but I'd have to duct-tape it to my little P&S.


Isn't there an adapter you can get so you can use filters?


I have an adapter for my tele lens, which is the only adapter there is for my camera, I'm pretty sure. At least at the shop I went to, none of the ND filters were a fit.
:-(


What's the thread size of the adapter, 52mm? It might be 58mm. Those are very common sizes so filters should not be a problem to find.


I dunno, I'm camera-tech-challenged. My adapter is Canon code-named "LA-DC52D", and the end that I'd put a filter on is 52mm in diameter. I guess I could go to a bigger camera shop and check again.
:-/


52mm filters then

For graduated ND filters though I'd go with the Cokin system since it allows you to adjust where the graduation line falls.
07/19/2005 04:08:33 PM · #16
Originally posted by SJCarter:

I'm going to buy one of them, but would appreciate any feedback or reviews from experienced users.


I haven't used either of their PS plugin forms, but I think that I generally prefer Noise Ninja as its default settings tend to give a more natural look (though they perhaps leave slightly more noise?) than Neat Image.
07/19/2005 04:49:18 PM · #17
Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

I move my exposure compensation to -.5 ot -1.25 stops depending on the light. I went shopping for an ND filter, but I'd have to duct-tape it to my little P&S.


Isn't there an adapter you can get so you can use filters?


I have an adapter for my tele lens, which is the only adapter there is for my camera, I'm pretty sure. At least at the shop I went to, none of the ND filters were a fit.
:-(


What's the thread size of the adapter, 52mm? It might be 58mm. Those are very common sizes so filters should not be a problem to find.


I dunno, I'm camera-tech-challenged. My adapter is Canon code-named "LA-DC52D", and the end that I'd put a filter on is 52mm in diameter. I guess I could go to a bigger camera shop and check again.
:-/


52mm filters then

For graduated ND filters though I'd go with the Cokin system since it allows you to adjust where the graduation line falls.


Thanks Colette. Next time I get a chance during lunch, I'll take a walk over to a big shop I know of and take a look.
:-)
07/26/2005 02:45:56 PM · #18
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

I move my exposure compensation to -.5 ot -1.25 stops depending on the light. I went shopping for an ND filter, but I'd have to duct-tape it to my little P&S.


Isn't there an adapter you can get so you can use filters?


I have an adapter for my tele lens, which is the only adapter there is for my camera, I'm pretty sure. At least at the shop I went to, none of the ND filters were a fit.
:-(


What's the thread size of the adapter, 52mm? It might be 58mm. Those are very common sizes so filters should not be a problem to find.


I dunno, I'm camera-tech-challenged. My adapter is Canon code-named "LA-DC52D", and the end that I'd put a filter on is 52mm in diameter. I guess I could go to a bigger camera shop and check again.
:-/


52mm filters then

For graduated ND filters though I'd go with the Cokin system since it allows you to adjust where the graduation line falls.


Thanks Colette. Next time I get a chance during lunch, I'll take a walk over to a big shop I know of and take a look.
:-)

Took a walk to Henry's this aft and got myself a circular polarizer instead of an ND. It fits right on my little P&S adapter and even has threads on the outside so I can screw my tele onto it. It decreases my exposure 2 stops. I'm all giddy to try it out, but it's cloudy out. Thanks for the help!!!
:-)
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