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07/17/2005 08:35:03 PM · #1 |
| I have PS Elements 2...is there some filter I can use to warm the tones of a shot? Thanks. |
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07/17/2005 08:40:40 PM · #2 |
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ed: Oops... just realized that's for 3.0
Message edited by author 2005-07-17 20:41:52. |
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07/17/2005 08:44:00 PM · #3 |
u mean to just add oranges and reds? in PS 7 you can go to edit>adjustments>variations and i think that does it.
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07/17/2005 08:49:01 PM · #4 |
It seems like my "hues" adjustment doesn't have much range at all between red and green. I either get too heavy a red tone or an icky greenish tone.
Under color variation you can increase red, green or blue, but nothing inbetween.
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07/17/2005 09:00:38 PM · #5 |
could try going cymk and try variations that way
Message edited by author 2005-07-17 21:01:03. |
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07/17/2005 09:03:22 PM · #6 |
| I don't know much about PS Elements. I'm assuming you can't simply add a layer, fill it with orange, then lower the opacity? |
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07/17/2005 09:04:16 PM · #7 |
You can use "Solid Color" adjustment layers in "Color" blending mode. Add a Solid Color adjustment layer. In the color selection dialog box, enter 0, 2, 10, 0 as CMYK values. This is roughly equivalent to 81B warming filter. Decrease the layer opacity until you're happy with how it looks.
I should have the list of CMYK settings for simulating various warm-up and cooling filters this way, but I can't seem to find it right now.
Message edited by author 2005-07-17 21:04:41. |
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07/17/2005 09:05:33 PM · #8 |
if all goes to the pits, just select the largest brush you can, get a color you like, and put the opacity low. a few dabs on your whole picture should do it
i do a lot of ghetto ps editting
Message edited by author 2005-07-17 21:06:23.
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07/17/2005 09:09:08 PM · #9 |
Are these filter OK under the basic editing rules?
The density adjustment in 3.0 sounds very much like an opacity adjustment that is not allowed. |
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07/17/2005 09:21:32 PM · #10 |
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07/17/2005 10:07:03 PM · #11 |
i dunno nuffin' 'bout elements, but in PS CS you can go to Image>Adjustments>Photo Filter and it's got an entire set of "standard" filters to choose from.
these are legal for both basic and advanced.
any adjustment layers MUST be applied in normal mode for basic editing (but you can change the opacity).
NO brush or selection tools can be used for basic editing. |
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07/17/2005 10:18:51 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by muckpond:
i dunno nuffin' 'bout elements, but in PS CS you can go to Image>Adjustments>Photo Filter and it's got an entire set of "standard" filters to choose from. |
I think this is something that is completely new in CS, as PS 7 doens't have it. Of course, there are other ways like Hue/Sat, Color Balance, or even the Channel Mixer. But, I don't know if they are in Elements at all. Still, there must be a way.
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07/17/2005 10:22:45 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by muckpond:
i dunno nuffin' 'bout elements, but in PS CS you can go to Image>Adjustments>Photo Filter and it's got an entire set of "standard" filters to choose from.
these are legal for both basic and advanced.
any adjustment layers MUST be applied in normal mode for basic editing (but you can change the opacity).
NO brush or selection tools can be used for basic editing. |
So adding a solid color layer and fading it in normal mode is ok in basic editing?
Robt.
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07/17/2005 10:32:21 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
Originally posted by muckpond:
i dunno nuffin' 'bout elements, but in PS CS you can go to Image>Adjustments>Photo Filter and it's got an entire set of "standard" filters to choose from.
these are legal for both basic and advanced.
any adjustment layers MUST be applied in normal mode for basic editing (but you can change the opacity).
NO brush or selection tools can be used for basic editing. |
So adding a solid color layer and fading it in normal mode is ok in basic editing?
Robt. |
No, adding a solid color layer is not legal, however you can use the standard filters under Image>Adjustmenst>Photo Filter. You can change the opacity directly in the filter dialog, and this is legal as well, however, as always, blending mode must stay set to normal.
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07/18/2005 12:47:22 PM · #15 |
This is one of those areas where it seems that improvements in software raises issues with the rules. At least with the basic editing rules.
The suggestions I have seen on creating a warming filer in Elements 2 involve layers and a change from a normal to a color blend mode. The rules say I have to stick with the normal blend mode. So that route is not allowed undere the rules.
Meanwhile Elements 3 as describe by muckpond has added the warming filer under a filter menu. That route seems to be OK. It seems to me that all that has happened it that the makers of Elements have put the workaround into the new version.
Larry.............. |
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07/18/2005 01:00:25 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by bear_music:
Originally posted by muckpond:
i dunno nuffin' 'bout elements, but in PS CS you can go to Image>Adjustments>Photo Filter and it's got an entire set of "standard" filters to choose from.
these are legal for both basic and advanced.
any adjustment layers MUST be applied in normal mode for basic editing (but you can change the opacity).
NO brush or selection tools can be used for basic editing. |
So adding a solid color layer and fading it in normal mode is ok in basic editing?
Robt. |
No, adding a solid color layer is not legal, however you can use the standard filters under Image>Adjustmenst>Photo Filter. You can change the opacity directly in the filter dialog, and this is legal as well, however, as always, blending mode must stay set to normal. |
That creates an interesting anomaly, because PS "color filters" are nothing but color layers adjusted for opacity. So we are allowed to do automatically, IF we can afford the latest version of the program, what we cannot legally do by hand? In a sense this seems backward to me...
Not being argumentative, but this is a huge philosophical issue that's only gonna get worse as they increase sophistication of the software.
R.
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07/18/2005 01:08:16 PM · #17 |
| Funny how we do things differently. I go into color select, gray color, then reduce the cyan to -5% to about -10% to warm an image. I found this somehow through experimentation. Maybe its easier doing it other ways. But I'm a self-taught PS user. |
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07/18/2005 01:19:11 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by vtruan:
Funny how we do things differently. I go into color select, gray color, then reduce the cyan to -5% to about -10% to warm an image. I found this somehow through experimentation. Maybe its easier doing it other ways. But I'm a self-taught PS user. |
That's how I do it too in basic editing. But this only works on the neutrals, you have to tinker with black channel and white channel also. Much easier to apply a color blend mode with a solid color, which works right across the image and can be faded in and out at will. The end result is the same.
Personally, I think it's a little odd that the basic rules so narrowly limit the options for color-cast adjustment, since this is one of the fundamentals of post-processing. And, as I said before, these new "filters" in PS recognize this and essentially automate a color blending mode.
R.
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07/18/2005 01:21:28 PM · #19 |
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07/18/2005 01:34:25 PM · #20 |
The way I do it is just with the color balance.
It's simple and gives you control over your image. To warm an image, move the sliders slightly more towards yellow and red in both the shadows, midtones and highlights. |
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07/18/2005 01:49:43 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by Joey Lawrence:
The way I do it is just with the color balance.
It's simple and gives you control over your image. To warm an image, move the sliders slightly more towards yellow and red in both the shadows, midtones and highlights. |
Color balance also requires separate adjustments for bright, middle, and dark tones though... These work for fine-tuning relationships between the ranges of an image, but it is simpler to provide an overall neutralization to the whole image before fine-tuning.
R.
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07/18/2005 01:50:57 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by scuds:
OPANDA photo filter! |
I've never used Opanda for a basic challenge because I assumed it was illegal, for reasons stated below. I s'pose now they are permitting PS color filters then Opanda is by default legal also?
SC care to comment?
R.
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07/18/2005 02:44:11 PM · #23 |
i've never used OPANDA but if it's just a filter that is applied to the entire image, i don't see why you wouldn't be able to use it for a basic challenge.
you're just not allowed to create any new LAYERS (not Adjustment Layers) under the Basic Editing rules. and the blending mode on Adjustment Layers has to be set to normal. otherwise, you can adjust the opacity, hue, and color balance using adjustment layers all you like -- the changes just have to be made to the entire image. |
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07/18/2005 04:02:42 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by muckpond:
i've never used OPANDA but if it's just a filter that is applied to the entire image, i don't see why you wouldn't be able to use it for a basic challenge.
you're just not allowed to create any new LAYERS (not Adjustment Layers) under the Basic Editing rules. and the blending mode on Adjustment Layers has to be set to normal. otherwise, you can adjust the opacity, hue, and color balance using adjustment layers all you like -- the changes just have to be made to the entire image. |
Opanda is a stand-alone program (not a plugin) that allows you to experiment with different color filters on your image. You'd process in Opanda first then move to PS.
Robt.
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07/18/2005 04:04:27 PM · #25 |
I have written a photoshop action that mimics 81a and 81b warming filters... send me a pm and i'll give u the steps to do it in elements..
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