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05/09/2003 10:46:36 PM · #1 |
I saw a commercial today for a Kodak Single Use Digital!!! How cool is that? Has anyone tried it? I did a search online and found nothing. I'd love to know the specs. I can foresee using it at the beach, etc. Apparantly it contains a cd.
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05/09/2003 11:09:50 PM · #2 |
Its a marketing gimmick. You buy a 35mm disposable camera and pay extra upfront. This covers the cost of getting a photoCD made.
PlusDigital press release. |
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05/09/2003 11:19:05 PM · #3 |
That's a "PictureCD" and not a "PhotoCD" from Kodak -- they are different, and I'm pretty sure the PictureCD is lower resolution. You can get one made now when you drop off your film for developing...
Message edited by author 2003-05-09 23:19:21. |
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05/10/2003 11:08:50 AM · #4 |
Yep, You two are right. I received a response from Kodak.
"Greetings Grayce,
We have received your email about the KODAK
PLUSDigital One-Time-Use
Camera, and we appreciate the opportunity to
comment.
This new product is a step forward into digital
photography for
one-time-use camera fans, providing the benefits
of digital photography,
easily and inexpensively, along with traditional
35 mm prints. You'll
be able to email your photos to friends and
family, enlarge them, remove
red-eye, zoom & crop, and even print copies of
your pictures right at
home.
After taking all the pictures on your PLUSDigital
Camera, just drop it
off at any retailer offering Kodak overnight
processing. Be sure to
check the box on the envelope marked "Prints Plus
CD." (Although the 35
mm film in this camera requires normal film
processing services, only
Kodak-branded overnight processing will include
the advertised free CD.)
When you pick up your photofinishing order, you
will pay only the normal
develop & print fee. Your KODAK Picture CD will
be included in the
envelope at no additional charge.
As you're aware, this is a brand new product. We
have no way of telling
you what stores have already begun to stock it,
but you should begin to
see it soon at retail outlets carrying other
Kodak one-time-use cameras,
such as CVS, Farmer Jack, Kmart, Kroger, Meijer,
Rite Aid, Target,
Walgreens, and other dealers of Kodak products.
Its suggested list price
is $9.99, but the actual selling price will be
set by the retailer.
Thank you for visiting the Kodak website. If you
should have future
questions on Kodak products or services, please
be sure to revisit our
site as we are continually adding information to
enhance our service.
Sincerely,
Dale P.
Kodak Information and Technical Support"
I got all excited over nuttin' sighhhhhhh.
My guess is that it is only a matter of time before a one time use digital hits the market though.
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05/10/2003 11:34:47 AM · #5 |
I don't think we'll see a one-time use digital. What would make it one-time use? Where would the advantage be? The film limits the 35mm single-use cameras but it would be too expensive to make a CCD and the circuitry needed for just one bunch of photographs.
Disposables are a bad idea anyways...anything that's designed to be garbage is not good. |
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05/10/2003 11:39:58 AM · #6 |
Why would anyone want a one use digital camera? But now if it was a recyclable thing where you could pay a one-time deposit and then each time you dropped off the cam for prints you got another camera, I could see some people opting for such a service. People who are not into computers and stuff maybe. It would save a heck of a lot film/cameras going into landfills. |
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05/10/2003 11:47:31 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by orussell: Why would anyone want a one use digital camera? But now if it was a recyclable thing where you could pay a one-time deposit and then each time you dropped off the cam for prints you got another camera, I could see some people opting for such a service. People who are not into computers and stuff maybe. It would save a heck of a lot film/cameras going into landfills. |
And here you're back to George Eastman's original consumer camera...pre-loaded with film, you dropped it off for developing, and the lab returned it re-loaded. Such progress...
Still, you have a somewhat similar product right now with inexpensive digicams without a removable card. It seems to me the limiting factor in any "disposable" will be the optics anyway. |
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05/10/2003 12:21:48 PM · #8 |
Way back before i even knew about digital, I had a waterproof 35 mm point and shoot and was going to Honduras. I knew we would be going to the beach one day, and though my camera was waterproof, I didn't exactly want to take it out. So, on a whim, I bought a disposable underwater camera. I got some awesome shots that day swimming around with the fishies. Of course there was a lot of light, and I didn't know squat about photography, but it was fun. We also placed disposables on the tables at my wedding reception (6 years ago today!) and let the guests take pictures. That turned out interesting.
Of course, in true karmat fashion, I don't have a clue where any of them are right now, so I can't show you! :-(
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05/10/2003 12:44:15 PM · #9 |
this move is Kodak trying to remain relevant and commercially successful in the face of stiff competition from inexpensive consumer digicam offerings from Canon, Fuji, Olympus, etc.
Everyone know Kodak isn't doing as well as some of these other companies, and someone there had this brilliant idea, as a means of trying to get some of that entry level market: the kind of person who wants a digicam but cant afford one, or now thinks they dont have to.
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05/10/2003 01:03:08 PM · #10 |
Kodak is screwed and has been for some time :) Fujifilm is doing much better. (What you can say, from a company that came out with Velvia in 1990s??) Now if Fuji makes Canon lens compatible cameras, i'd be really impressed.
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05/10/2003 11:57:49 PM · #11 |
I wonder if part of the reason they haven't is because Canon either won't license them a body (both existing FUJI DSLR's are based on Nikon bodies - with the 'digital' part of the camera being Fuji's technology) or they want to charge too much for it.
Anyone know?
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05/11/2003 12:47:08 AM · #12 |
I think you're probably right about that. Canon licenses their lenses, but not the body parts :) Not sure if this is a wise strategy -- Nikon licenses their body parts out, similar to PCs, and Canon is more like the Apple model. Guess which one wins at the end?? But then again, Canon can afford to do this right now as they do have slight edge over Nikon on their CMOS sensors. Nikon relies on other manufacturers, Canon does not, they have their own internal semiconductor company whose only purpose is to make chips for their entire lines of digicams.
i think a WISE model is to come out with an interfacfe model for Canon and allow others to make the DIGITAL part that can be swappable (swappable sensors, but keeping the autofocus, etc. built in). Then sensors and its digital processing module will become the new "film" which should save workflow time. This would allow other manufacturers such as Foveon, etc. to build sensors for Canon/Nikon/Olympus/etc.
Originally posted by magnetic9999: I wonder if part of the reason they haven't is because Canon either won't license them a body (both existing FUJI DSLR's are based on Nikon bodies - with the 'digital' part of the camera being Fuji's technology) or they want to charge too much for it.
Anyone know? |
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05/11/2003 12:01:32 PM · #13 |
what's interesting to note is that for awhile there was a joint Kodak-Canon digital camera, called by Kodak the DCS520 and by Canon the EOS-D2000 - this was a really tough as nails pro cam that used Canon EOS lenses. It sold for about $15,000 and was a whopping 2 megapixels!!!
More info about it here:
//www.nyquist-solutions.co.uk/products/imaging/camera/kodakpro/dcs520-2.htm
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05/11/2003 12:04:23 PM · #14 |
Oh, also check out this link on it - this was when it first came out (early 1998) .. Funny how far we've come:
"Kodak's Latest and the Greatest - the DCS 520"
Message edited by author 2003-05-11 12:05:45.
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05/11/2003 12:48:05 PM · #15 |
Maybe Canon figures that Kodak isn't really adding to their value since Canon's own semiconductor company produces cheap CMOS sensors that is lower noise than those from Kodak. Partly it's probably internal politics of a company not willing to outsource, partly it's because they figure they can dominate the market place.
I don't think we'll see disposable digital camera, that's pretty silly. I have shot over 5000 images on the G2 when I had it. So let's figure it this way: $5 for development + printing @ 36 per roll would cost about $694. I paid $670 for the camera when i got it. More than worth its weight in film, disposable or not. Why would anyone want to get a disposable camera, pay $10 for it, and then pay another $5-7 to get it developed? 5000 shots at $17 per 36 images would cost about $2361!!! Enough to BUY a Canon 10D and one L glass :) |
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05/11/2003 02:51:59 PM · #16 |
I think you're correct about swappable sensors, paganini. The big players should get together and come up with a standard format, preferably full frame 35mm compatible. And make their digital SLR bodies compatible with their 35mm SLR lenses. But I guess that would create too much competition and bring the prices down too much for the liking of the manufacturers. Oh well, we can dream can't we? |
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05/11/2003 06:54:29 PM · #17 |
Karma....happy anniversary to you and your beloved!!! How wonderful. About the disposable...I also used one in the Bahamas and Carribean to shoot underwater. The best application for them is if you are going to be somewhere that may endanger your equipment. Actually they aren't true disposables. Evidently they are recycled. I'm a conservationist and don't condone waste, and do my best to preserve our environment. :-)
Originally posted by karmat: Way back before i even knew about digital, I had a waterproof 35 mm point and shoot and was going to Honduras. I knew we would be going to the beach one day, and though my camera was waterproof, I didn't exactly want to take it out. So, on a whim, I bought a disposable underwater camera. I got some awesome shots that day swimming around with the fishies. Of course there was a lot of light, and I didn't know squat about photography, but it was fun. We also placed disposables on the tables at my wedding reception (6 years ago today!) and let the guests take pictures. That turned out interesting.
Of course, in true karmat fashion, I don't have a clue where any of them are right now, so I can't show you! :-( |
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