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 07/07/2005 06:33:11 PM · #26
Originally posted by queanbeez:
tamron AF 75-300
and canon 18-55mm

Originally posted by art-inept:
what lens are you using?


if you're trying to autofocus in low light, these lenses will have a hard time doing so. also these lenses will have a hard time focusing up close since they're not macros. your 'Bentley' picture was probably suffering from that. you probably can't focus closer than 1.5 feet so product photography like that bentley picture will be difficult. when it comes to the AF, it's usually up to the lens. if i were you, i'd get a nice prime like the Canon 50mm F/1.4 or the 85mm F/1.8 which are around 300-330. then if the autofocus problem ur still having is not that, get the rebel xt lol. or downgrade (this is bad) to a G6 or some other relatively new advanced point and shoot.
 07/07/2005 06:56:20 PM · #27
Don't down grade. You're potential with the Rebel is much better. Just save up and invest in lenses. It would be extremely frustrating going from the quickness of any SLR to a point and shoot. But if you have to, I would check out the Panasonic FZ20 for about 600, or the Fuji s20. I have a fuji s7000(almost identical to s20) and it works great, but its no D70 which I bought last week(or rebel for that matter).
 07/07/2005 07:16:12 PM · #28
Ow, shut up... your pictures look really good, I don't believe you have a problem with the 300D, you're just bored and teasing us... am I right? ;-)
 07/07/2005 07:27:52 PM · #29
well it seems most people are talking about how great the camera is but i'm not keeping it. it takes so long to take a snapshot, its pathetic. and it doesnt matter what lighting i'm in, i can never find the right settings to get the camera to focus inside or outside. Its so frustrating to try and just take a snapshot, i like convenience and an SLR is too difficult for me. if you have read my profile you can see that i dont consider myself a professional, i like this site and others cause its fun but i'm not having any kind of fun with the rebel. my friend has a rebel and he has tried to show me stuff, like settings and PS stuff, but i think that i need something less difficult. i was checking out some other canon's without detachable lenses and think i will sway that way..hopefully i can sell it soon and move on! wish me luck!!!!
 07/07/2005 07:30:05 PM · #30
Luck!
 07/07/2005 07:33:25 PM · #31
Good Luck... must say I am thinking of not replacing but rather adding a point and shoot... Pity because I also think you are taking excellent pics. You have a good eye..
 07/07/2005 07:38:32 PM · #32
I have given up my Canon 300d to my husband. I found the 300d too heavy for me to lug around and hold steady freehand. I have now bought a Canon Powershot S2 Is and so far I am very impressed. Its a nice light camera and easy to use, the shots I've taken with it are a lot more pleasing to me than the ones I took with the 300d.
 07/07/2005 07:41:34 PM · #33

Canon S1 (or S2) and Panasonic FZ20 are both AWESOME cameras for their price. Since the lack of interchangable lenses doesn't seem to concern you, then P&S has essentially only 2 drawbacks: Slowness and Noise. Without adequate manual focus, you will miss lots of great moments with P&S; and ISO above 100 will give you a ridiculous amount of noise.
I totally understand why you would want P&S. While SLR's allow for greater control and potentially higher picture quality, they put a heavy strain on the photographer. If you can live with the above mentioned drawbacks, then definitely checkout the Canon and Panasonic; they really are the apex of P&S cameras, trust me.


07/07/2005 07:58:23 PM · #34
Cheryl - I feel like I could have written your original message. I also have the Rebel but lately I've been real frustrated not only with the quality of the shots, but, like you said, the hassle of lugging around this big camera, deciding what lens I'll needs, hitting tons of buttons and hoping for the best. (I haven't read the manual yet!). I had gotten to the point where I hated even bringing it out and I didn't like feeling that way. So I made the decision to downside just last week. Read all the reviews and headed to the camera store. I knew I wanted something relatively small, not so tiny I couldn't see the buttons, but not huge either, and preferable nothing with a lens cap :) (went that route with the S1IS and it drove me nuts). I looked at the Canon G6 and Nikon CP8800. I liked the zoom on the Nikon and the fact it has IS, but it was a little big and had the dreaded lens caps, but the salesman told me to look at the Sony DSC-V3 which I also had on my list. It just felt right in my hand. It doesn't have the huge zoom of the Nikon but a nice decent range. Good quality Zeiss (sp?) lens, HUGE 2.5 inch LCD on the back and that makes such a difference to me when shooting. 7.1 mp, some night vision thing and tons of other stuff that if I read the book I would know. I can say that I took pictures with BOTH my Rebel and this Sony this past weekend, showed them to my husband and he was amazed at the difference between the two right out of the camera. I'm very happy with my choice, it is a joy to use, solid as a tank and makes me WANT to go out and take pictures. Here's one of my shots, just fooling around with the camera, only postprocessing with a tiny bit of curves and that's it.

07/07/2005 08:04:34 PM · #35
I like my Fujifilm F810, very good design, sharp pictures and fine colors.
 07/07/2005 08:54:16 PM · #36
cheryl, i'd check out //www.dpreview.com people are just as nice over their in the forums and provide excellent information. i researched my nikon5700 purchase for a month before i went out and got it. most my information was given by the community of that forum.

Message edited by author 2005-07-07 20:54:31.
 07/07/2005 09:06:56 PM · #37
I so have a cheap camera and it is wonderful, takes incredible shots, but I am looking for more control and manual adjustments.

If your serious about selling, I am serious about buying. Also I have a 4mp Pentax Optio S40 it is an incredible point and shoot camera, very easy to use and very clean crisp photos achieved. If you want take a look at my profile, there is a little everything on there, and none of it was post process beyond basic editing. GL, I hope ya get what you are looking for.
 07/07/2005 09:09:50 PM · #38
Originally posted by Tuckersmom:
Cheryl - I feel like I could have written your original message. I also have the Rebel but lately I've been real frustrated not only with the quality of the shots, but, like you said, the hassle of lugging around this big camera, deciding what lens I'll needs, hitting tons of buttons and hoping for the best. (I haven't read the manual yet!). I had gotten to the point where I hated even bringing it out and I didn't like feeling that way. So I made the decision to downside just last week. Read all the reviews and headed to the camera store. I knew I wanted something relatively small, not so tiny I couldn't see the buttons, but not huge either, and preferable nothing with a lens cap :) (went that route with the S1IS and it drove me nuts). I looked at the Canon G6 and Nikon CP8800. I liked the zoom on the Nikon and the fact it has IS, but it was a little big and had the dreaded lens caps, but the salesman told me to look at the Sony DSC-V3 which I also had on my list. It just felt right in my hand. It doesn't have the huge zoom of the Nikon but a nice decent range. Good quality Zeiss (sp?) lens, HUGE 2.5 inch LCD on the back and that makes such a difference to me when shooting. 7.1 mp, some night vision thing and tons of other stuff that if I read the book I would know. I can say that I took pictures with BOTH my Rebel and this Sony this past weekend, showed them to my husband and he was amazed at the difference between the two right out of the camera. I'm very happy with my choice, it is a joy to use, solid as a tank and makes me WANT to go out and take pictures. Here's one of my shots, just fooling around with the camera, only postprocessing with a tiny bit of curves and that's it.



ya but i think canon recommends you to use USM at .3 pixels and 300% to sharpen things up. point and shoots might have more pixels than the rebel but the rebel has a larger sensor which reduces dead pixel noise levels i believe. at iso 100 i think the rebel will beat the sony at low noise levels. plus a lot of the image quality has to do with the lens. i would say a 1ds mark II with an 18-55mm lens will probably produce worse image quality than a 300D/Rebel with a 35mm F/1.4 L lens. im not sure though since i have neither of those cameras. i use a rebel xt with a 50mm 1.8 mkII and a 28-80mm 3.5-5.6 V USM and the 50mm is much sharper than the 28-80 at 50mm even when the zoom is stopped down to f/8

edit: well if you've made up your mind, queanbeez, i would suggest a canon point and shoot since you're probably familiar with the similar layout from your rebel.

Message edited by author 2005-07-07 21:12:30.
 07/07/2005 10:43:35 PM · #39
Originally posted by queanbeez:
well it seems most people are talking about how great the camera is but i'm not keeping it. it takes so long to take a snapshot, its pathetic. and it doesnt matter what lighting i'm in, i can never find the right settings to get the camera to focus inside or outside. Its so frustrating to try and just take a snapshot, i like convenience and an SLR is too difficult for me. if you have read my profile you can see that i dont consider myself a professional, i like this site and others cause its fun but i'm not having any kind of fun with the rebel. my friend has a rebel and he has tried to show me stuff, like settings and PS stuff, but i think that i need something less difficult. i was checking out some other canon's without detachable lenses and think i will sway that way..hopefully i can sell it soon and move on! wish me luck!!!!


Good luck. I'm sure you'll find something that will suit the type of shooting you want to do with the results you expect.
 07/08/2005 09:19:28 AM · #40
Rebel For Sale
 07/08/2005 09:29:14 AM · #41
Originally posted by queanbeez:
i have used everything AF points, auto, manual, RAW, P1,RGB, photoshop, tri-pod, nothing works..i've only had a few good shots as you can see from my portfolio.


How long have you been "into" photography?
and how long have you been "into" digital photography?
and how much time have you devoted to learning a program like photoshop?

Judging from you photos you have some real potential. Don't give up yet!

Good luck!
 07/08/2005 09:42:51 AM · #42
Originally posted by pitsaman:
Awesome photo :



I admire your work and especially this photo. And I'm an "ad exec" who wouldv'r bought that ad had it been on my desk. Someone with your talent would out grow the p&s very rapidly. Take a break but don't sell the rebel.(except to move to a EOS 20D)
 07/08/2005 09:43:42 AM · #43
I hope it doesn't sell and you reconsider. Try the $75 50mm lens from Canon. It is a very fast lens. You can't shoot thru the LCD but you also see what the camera sees this way. Going to a P&S is really a step back words. I think you will see that once you buy a P&S.

I just shot a wedding and used the 50mm lens most of the time at had the camera set to Program mode or "P" on the dial. I use a 20D but started with a Rebel and would have done the same with it. Program mode will let the camera control all the settings except the flash.

Edit > It is tough to get good, sharp pictures with the 18-55mm kit lens.

Message edited by author 2005-07-08 09:44:34.
 07/08/2005 10:05:29 AM · #44
its not really backwards when those couple of photos you see in my portfolio are the only ones that came out looking fine. those are the only photos i have because i delete all of them because they look like crap. i've seen alot of great photos on here from people who do not have DSLR's, they are not for everyone.
 07/08/2005 10:15:00 AM · #45
Originally posted by queanbeez:
its not really backwards when those couple of photos you see in my portfolio are the only ones that came out looking fine. those are the only photos i have because i delete all of them because they look like crap. i've seen alot of great photos on here from people who do not have DSLR's, they are not for everyone.


I'll conceed that they are not for everyone, because dslr's require
photoshop time. It has taken me months just to learn the art of sharpening, and I'm only just begining to get the results that I want.
I have been into photography for years, but digital only about a year, and photoshop about a year. On the same note, I will also say that I
think everyone can learn to get better, with time, patience, and persistence.
 07/09/2005 11:24:53 AM · #46
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Just remember that a P & S camera has a very hard time achieving shallow DOF without additional equipment. An SLR on the other hand can present a problem of getting enough DOF.

Try shooting in aperature priority and experiment with each of your lenses. In fact, here's an assignment for you (suggestion):

//www.orleansphotoclub.com/assignments/assignment1.html


I agree! I feel severely limited by my point and shoot. It has an adapter, lenses and filters so I've been able to play a little, but its very frustrating.

Message edited by author 2005-07-09 11:25:43.
 07/09/2005 11:54:43 AM · #47
Originally posted by queanbeez:
its not really backwards when those couple of photos you see in my portfolio are the only ones that came out looking fine. those are the only photos i have because i delete all of them because they look like crap. i've seen alot of great photos on here from people who do not have DSLR's, they are not for everyone.


I quite agree that there are a lot of advantages to prosumer P&S. I don't think I get the quality and percentage of hits on my rebel that I got with my G2. To me it's usually about not enough light for sufficient DOF without going to ISO 800 and also for all the stuff I have to carry, never seeming to have the right lens on at the right time.

Then I look at Robert's (Banmorn's) stuff. I'd be happy to shoot just like that. And he uses only prosumer P&S. Besides his keen eye, his photos all benefit from huge DOF and probably also from not having to lug a backpack around and change lenses 5 times an hour. ;)

I don't mean to neglect the many people here who certainly can make their SLR sing as well. That's not my point.

I have experience with SLRs and TLR's from my high school and college days, and I like the extra creative control an SLR brings, but I still have doubts myself as to whether carrying around the extra baggage is really worth it compared to modern P&Ss. (Except for going beyond very moderate wide angle--which is something that seems to be missing from most P&S's. Though I wonder how well those front-lens adapters do.)



07/09/2005 12:02:34 PM · #48
What I would do is keep the Rebel and buy a used F717, or something similar. I have both, and I really love having the best of both worlds.

07/09/2005 10:16:44 PM · #49
I just recently stepped UP to a Rebel 300D from a string of point n shoot's, my current one being a Canon Pro1, and I have to tell you that if you're unhappy with focus on your Rebel, you're not going to be much happier with a P&S either. Where your 300D snapped to focus, a P&S is going to hunt. Where your 300D took nice ISO 400 or 800 images in questionable light, a P&S is going to be noisy as hell. Seriously, your best option would be to ADD a P&S to your arsenal and then choose which one you want to take (or both) to a shoot. If you're unhappy with the sharpness of the kit lens, look at some other lenses first. The 50mm 1.8 is supposed to be an amazingly sharp lens for a small amount of money.
 07/19/2005 08:35:51 AM · #50
well i just bought my canon S2!! Wont be here for 3 days though....I see everyone has had their own opinions but if it doesnt work out than i'll just sell it and move on! I personally think it will be much better considering i take better photos with my fuji than i did with my Rebel..wish me luck!!
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