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06/15/2005 05:03:02 AM · #1
(but also tell me if you like any of it)


224th place with an
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Message edited by author 2005-06-15 05:04:57.
06/15/2005 05:25:06 AM · #2
For what is worth I thought is was quite good, the crane is sharp, maybe a tighter crop would do away with some clutter at the bottom.

Well done and good luck for future challenges.
06/15/2005 05:30:31 AM · #3
Thanks I had thought about cropping the stripped roof but for some reason decided to leave it in. I think I was thinking that it would give some color to the lower part and help draw the connection between the crane and the stoplight...

There was a much better shot to the left of this one that had the roof and the crane angled better but there was a festival going on. And there was a stand full of people in the way. :)
06/15/2005 05:31:53 AM · #4
This image might have done better in "Framed" where there was less "Crane" competition. Overall, I think the "Crane" pictures may have suffered, due to the fact that there were so many enteries with cranes.


06/15/2005 05:34:17 AM · #5
Yes I did notice the large amount of crane shots... some how at the time I just didn't expect there to be a lot of them.
06/15/2005 06:13:18 AM · #6
There isn't a lot wrong with your entry, perhaps some tighter cropping. I think what let it down slightly was the subject matter, as stated in another thread, the crane is not constructing anything, it is just moving things. Having said that, most people associate cranes with construction.

A good first effort and a decent first score. Keep at it and watch those scores rise!

Steve
06/15/2005 06:26:07 AM · #7
Originally posted by darkyoda:

(but also tell me if you like any of it)


The lighting and exposure on the crane and building on which it stands is good. The fine detail is in sharp focus.

Look closely at your image and ask yourself this question, "What parts of this image do NOT add to the image's central theme?" (construction).

Anything that adds little or nothing to the central theme should not be included. That is almost everything on the left side of the frame. The tent at the bottom and traffic signal fit that category too.

Obviously you added these items for framing and there is nothing wrong with that idea. However, you have devoted more image real estate to the framing than to the main subject which is probably a mistake in this particular image. If this were the "natural framing" challenge it would be different, but it isn't.

The framing might have worked better if it were a true silhouette but much detail shows through making the framing appear to be nothing more than dark, underexposed areas on the frame that draw the eye away from the main subject (the crane).

I'd consider cropping out everything to the left of the apex of the triangular roof at the top and everything below and including the flat topped roof near the bottom of center frame. The traffic control signal just above that is a distraction to. Since it is in a basic challenge your only option is to crop that from the final image rather than cloning it out. That also means you crop out the building the crane stands on as well.

If you do all of that ask yourself, "What do I have left?". You have three important things. One, the crane which is the main subject. Two, the sky serving as background. Three, framing provided by the roof above and trees and lamps to the left.

The final image may not be super exciting but has clean lines, unique diagonal framing that is not overwhelming and no major distracting elements.

If you'd have been able to frame it like this in-camera in the first place you would have retained more fine detail.

On the technical side you might want to apply noise reduction. It is most apparent in the sky.

Is that ripped up enough? :)

Message edited by author 2005-06-15 06:41:51.
06/15/2005 02:58:36 PM · #8
Hmm Thanks. I had tried a few different crops but none of the involved removing the left side.

For me the traffic signal and the crane and the roof angle were part of the "echo". So I didn't even think of cropping the Traffic signal out. I'll play around with some of those crop suggestions.

The high Noise I think came from the ISO being high. I tried to lessen it some but it seemed to then lose detail in the crane.

And also thanks for the comment about the crane and the challenge Subject Steve. I think I had a little broader standard for what I thought of as "construction" (as there was a few that had no construction at all that I voted fairly high like there was this spider web one.) I'm sure I will learn a lot more about what most people think of different subjects as I use the site.
06/15/2005 03:06:36 PM · #9
Something else that I noticed - and I think stdavidson offered a pretty thorough review - is that the entire shot seemed a little drab to me (with regard to color & *pop*). Not sure how it would turn out, but you might consider pumping up some of the color too...

I agree with others that it was a strong entry (especially for your 1st time - my first entry was 501 out of 508! LOL). You had a lot of good detail and basically just needed a little more crop & pizzazz.

Just my 2 cents...


06/15/2005 03:09:57 PM · #10
Again like so often
..the shot is good technically but lacks a wow factor.

Look through any challenge and you'll always find shots that were good, very good, but lacked a kicker to draw the higher votes.

06/15/2005 03:38:09 PM · #11
I gave you a 4..too much framing IMHO
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