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Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

06/11/2005 02:51:27 PM · #1

I was angry all day until I realized that I just needed to do my thing and let people fall where they may.

Here's a new frontpage to our site - see whacha think.

//www.pictureinfinity.com/weddings/weddings2.html

cpanaioti

Canon EOS-40D

06/11/2005 03:07:31 PM · #2

I like it but I don't think the general public will 'get it'.

Good way to vent.

mcrochip

Pentax K20D

Tokina AF 28-80mm f/2.8 AT-X 280AF Pro for Pentax

06/11/2005 03:17:58 PM · #3

I think you were premature in ing your post, since I think the website falls into that category. More seriously, I think that page will drive away not only those people you don't want as customers, but their friends too - who you may well want as customers.

-Steve

Imagineer

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

06/11/2005 03:26:20 PM · #4

Your approach in the letter could be described as 'alternative' yet the site design and photography are quite traditional. I think you're going to miss out on a lot of business because it reads as if you're being very defensive and insecure.

If you want this style of pitch to work then you ought to go the whole hog and present the site and your work in a very unusual manner to attract an audience who would like something that bit different, but to be honest I think just presenting good photos is what people want to see when making a big commitment like this.

moodville

Nikon D100

06/11/2005 03:58:34 PM · #5

I thought the bride was suppose to be the prima donna? :P

I agree with Jon, though. It just looks like you're being defensive and taking up your toys and going to play with the other kids that are better than the potential reader. It's going to put off a lot of people.

Message edited by author 2005-06-11 15:59:43.

06/11/2005 04:02:37 PM · #6

But boy don't I feel better.

The page is sarcasm, it's not going public. However, as strikingly angry, defensive and attacking as it is, it would work in the right context. That's the sad part. I was angry, so I wrote an angry page. I am not planning to use it. I've vented, I feel better. And it would work!

M

ButterflySis

Canon EOS-50D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

06/11/2005 04:14:41 PM · #7

Just a question... I realize this is sarcasm and you say this is not going public, but couldn't someone do a search and find this page?

Olympus 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO M.Zuiko

06/11/2005 04:15:54 PM · #8

Depends. Maybe in a couple weeks when Yahoo indexes it and they search for "idiot bride" ;)

I'll take it down tonight probably. I'm still getting a chuckle out of it and there's no way for anyone to find it tonight.

Brad

Olympus OM-D E-M1

06/11/2005 04:24:55 PM · #9

Aren't potential clients wonderful?

Love,
Matt & Sarah .... LOL - nice touch!

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM

06/11/2005 04:26:38 PM · #10

:D

Thanks! I always do that when I'm VERY upset!

"Dear Bride Who Owes Us Money,

I'll torch your negatives in 3 weeks. Hope to hear from you in 2 or less. Have a good day.

Love,
Matt"

Catherine_B

Canon EOS-70D

06/11/2005 05:11:17 PM · #11

Sometimes something good comes of rants....

I just checked out your web site and I love the photos with the Bride and Groom in the grassy field with the Autum trees. Is there anyway to purchase one of these photos? They are beautiful and rather generic (meaning it could be any bride or groom).

Catherine

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

06/11/2005 05:14:25 PM · #12

I sent you a PM Catherine. Check your email. :)

M

deapee

Kodak V803

06/11/2005 05:24:02 PM · #13

Man...I'd take out that whole second paragraph and then some. Let your photos speak for your site...not what you have to say or how well you 'bash' other photographers.

Nikon D200

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

06/11/2005 05:27:24 PM · #14

Matt, because you mention your business in your DPC profile, it is linked to both your real name and your username. Anyone can Google either and get access to all your forum posts, even if it does not appear in the last 10 posts made list. You might recall that Google creates a cached image of each web page it crawls.

Any potential client for anyone's business (if mentioned in the bio) has access to any forum post via the above method.

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

06/11/2005 05:34:02 PM · #15

Originally posted by deapee:

Man...I'd take out that whole second paragraph and then some. Let your photos speak for your site...not what you have to say or how well you 'bash' other photographers.

lol

sage

Canon EOS-20D

06/11/2005 05:40:04 PM · #16

So what happened to you launching that flash website that you claimed you did yourself, but was really just a TemplateMonster.com site template?

As several people have pointed out, your postings are easily accessible by someone doing google research on your name... and a good number of your posts would certainly be a turn off to potential customers. Including this one.

I think you are the only one that found it funny. In reality it made you sound pompous.

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 28-300mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR

06/11/2005 05:44:47 PM · #17

*shrug*

If they find it and don't get it, and don't realize it's a joke, and don't realize that everyone has bad days, then I'd say screw them and I don't want them as a client anyways. I have enough clients this year who get my sense of humor, who are funny and who understand that I'm NOT the photographer next door. I don't worry too much about what people think of me, personally. I'd add that to the list in fact.

I took the flash site down because I couldn't get it to do what I wanted. I said I "learned" flash. I learned enough to get that site up. You do it.

M

Arcanist

Nikon D810

06/11/2005 06:03:39 PM · #18

Hey Mav,

Take a look at this article I wrote a few years back for my DJ business and sister site (Your Dream Wedding). It will give you a few ideas on how you might turn this letter's perspective into a positive thing.

I dealt with the same frustration until it became one of the most well traversed pages at my old site.

Hiring a Wedding DJ

sage

Canon EOS-20D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

06/11/2005 06:18:04 PM · #19

Originally posted by mavrik:

I took the flash site down because I couldn't get it to do what I wanted. I said I "learned" flash. I learned enough to get that site up. You do it.

I already do. It's what I do for a living. Internet development. If you had really "learned" flash, you should have been able to get it to do what you wanted.

Canon EOS-20D

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

06/11/2005 06:22:40 PM · #20

So people are supposed to come to you, instantly see that you are the greatest on earth and that there is no other, and book you no questions asked? If you're trying to put potential customers in their place in a sarcastic manner, I don't think it worked, even if it is all in jest. All that comes across is how highly you think of yourself.