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06/11/2005 11:29:08 AM · #1 |
I'm finishing up the baseball dvd slideshow for the team this season, and I have decided to do a print of each player for the parents. I had the random (and insane) idea to do a triptych/quad for the pitchers, and this is my attempt at such an animal. I've only done one previously, so this is still quite new to me. What would you change about it if you were considering giving this to the parents of a 12 year-old boy? Remember, I'm not (and don't want to be) a pro, I don't plan to do this for a living, I'm not selling them, and I'm not trying to make a name for myself to drum up business. Thanks in advance for any tips or advice you can offer! :o)
Here is the full-size if you wish to view it; click on "original" below the picture.
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06/11/2005 11:37:13 AM · #2 |
Looks great to me. I looked at the original size at your smugmug gallery and I got the following impression.
Consistent lighting / exposure
Minimal noise
Great focus
Subject looks natural as if he does not know the camera is on him.
Layout is well done
Color, DOF, Focus are all good.
And I think the SS is good as well.
The only thing I could pick at is the camera not being stable or in the same position through out the frames. Frames #3 and 4 has the subject higher and showing more foreground. It would have been nice to have the mound at an equal height through out the framed image.
I think you are doing a great job on this project.
Message edited by author 2005-06-11 11:44:04.
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06/11/2005 11:41:37 AM · #3 |
Looks good to me. I also saw the original size on smugmug. I think his parents will like it.
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06/11/2005 11:42:08 AM · #4 |
Hey, that's great! nice moments...
You caught that with a 10d? Is that all from one pitch?
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06/11/2005 11:44:35 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:
You caught that with a 10d? Is that all from one pitch? |
Yes, and yes. I knelt down behind the backstop and shot through the fence, just to the left of the batter and umpire. I had it in continuous mode and just fired away.
Thanks for the comments so far folks... I was a little concerned about the white background and it being too big/gaudy looking or the text being too weird, as well as the shots being soft/noisy. Thanks again! :o)
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06/11/2005 11:46:09 AM · #6 |
That's really awsome!!!
With photos like that, that you're gonna hand out you better make your time a bit more free for such "jobs" too.
I think parents are going to get crazy over you!!! |
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06/11/2005 11:54:54 AM · #7 |
For the pitcher the quad shot works, however, I wonder if you can do the same of the other positions. Also I wonder about the size you are going to print out. I doubt that quad fits a 8x10 or 8x12 (or deriatives) and so you have to get it custom printed (probably) and either find a frame in around that size or get a custom frame. If the parent really loves it, which I'm sure they will, they will likely go looking, but it's just something to consider.
I know it's kinda cheesy and unoriginal but have you thought about doing mock baseball cards for them? Although I doubt many kids collect baseball cards nowadays they do play those Japanese card games and so make think they're pretty cool to have a card like that. They're also highly framable and collectable too. Just a thought. |
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06/11/2005 12:01:13 PM · #8 |
The pictures and the idea are great, but what size paper are you going to print on? With that aspect ratio it seems you will have to have a narrow and very wide print.
If you do just 3 images instead of 4 you can probably print on standard 13 X 19 sized paper and it will look fine and won't require a custom frame, I think. :)
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06/11/2005 12:02:52 PM · #9 |
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06/11/2005 01:05:52 PM · #10 |
Yeah, printing is going to be tough to figure out...I am working on several versions to find the best aspect ratio to work with.
The camera didn't move much during the sequence, but the cropping afterwards (trying to get all four shots the same size, and vertical instead of the horizontal they were all shot in) created that diagonal from left to right...I will try some recropping to work that out a bit more level as well.
I thought about the baseball card idea but wondered if they would think it was too cheesy...but you know what? I think they're cute so what the heck. I'm going to give those a shot too. The only thing I'm out is my time anyway. Thanks so much for the comments and suggestions! :)
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06/11/2005 01:31:44 PM · #11 |
Great work Laurie! My only comment would be that the other positions will get jealous if you only do the pitchers...
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06/11/2005 01:41:11 PM · #12 |
I think it's very nicely put together, Laurie. My only concern would be the ability to consistently produce the same set of four shots. If you can do that, I'm sure you'll be very popular with parents.
Does Smugmug have an option to turn off the "Save photo" link, by the way? It doesn't seem very wise of them to encourage copyright infringment.
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06/11/2005 01:43:24 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by PaulMdx:
Does Smugmug have an option to turn off the "Save photo" link, by the way? It doesn't seem very wise of them to encourage copyright infringment. |
hrmm....dunno but I'm checking now! ;)
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06/11/2005 01:47:40 PM · #14 |
I agree with PaulMdx and TooCool's comments - if you have one or two that are much better than the others, people will get jealous - the parents more likely than the kids. A way around that might be to send or present the special ones individually in private.
GREAT work! I am so impressed! Wish I had you as a team photog when I was a kid. MIghta saved me from this (1972):
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06/11/2005 01:53:27 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by laurielblack:
Yeah, printing is going to be tough to figure out...I am working on several versions to find the best aspect ratio to work with.
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You may need to rework it but I have found 4 x 12 to be a good aspect ratio for printing. I have found 4 x 12 panoramic frames at Arts & Crafts stores.
I know I don't have any text on these which may make it more difficult for you but here are two 4 x 12 photos I have put together:
Good Luck! I know it can be fun and rewarding to finish a project like this! |
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06/11/2005 05:31:24 PM · #16 |
Laurie I like the idea behind this. Thanks for supplying me with the full size images so that I could 'play'. Here's what I came up with. I will gladly give you the PSD file so all you have to do is change the Player's name, and put in the 3 photos for each pitcher. Shouldn't take you more than 10 minutes per player. This is done at a 16x20 aspect ratio so that you can print large for the parents if they like.
-danny
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06/11/2005 05:48:55 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by aaronb532:
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ROFL !!!
Used to do this as a teenager back in Ohio.
Called "Lawn Jobs", we attacked defenseless snowmen in their front yards.
GAWD - How did my parents allow me to live.... |
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06/11/2005 05:55:38 PM · #18 |
Pretty cool project!
Between the two versions:
and
I found my eyes have an easier time following Laurie's version, as I follow the progression in a natural, left-to-right reading process.
I like Danny's version a lot, but the images all seem to be competing for my focal point, and yet not really presenting a natural start & stop point.
Each, nice in their own respects. printing formats may be the determining factor. |
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06/11/2005 05:59:16 PM · #19 |
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06/11/2005 06:16:19 PM · #20 |
How about a 2x2 layout? I know it's kind of strange for a series, but I think it might lead the eye nicely..
Edit: The other reason I suggest that is because it'll be easier to design as a 10x8 ratio.
Message edited by author 2005-06-11 18:17:30.
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06/11/2005 06:49:10 PM · #21 |
Hey Laurie!
I just went and checked out the picture/tript thing (sp?). I think it turned out great! I didn't notice the pictures on the right were higher than the left until it was mentionend. (I'm stilling working on that eye/seeing thing) So I think a parent wouldn't really notice it either. I think that is such a wonderful idea to do that for the parents! You're such a good person!
I think these turned out really well and the parents are going to love them!
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06/11/2005 07:20:10 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by BradP:
Pretty cool project!
I found my eyes have an easier time following Laurie's version, as I follow the progression in a natural, left-to-right reading process.
I like Danny's version a lot, but the images all seem to be competing for my focal point, and yet not really presenting a natural start & stop point.
Each, nice in their own respects. printing formats may be the determining factor. |
Brad,
I do see the progression in Laurie's to be easier to follow, but my approach to the image wasn't to show a film strip of their throwing form, more of a way to spot light the middle shot, with the ball, and make a nice frameable keepsake for the family. While I see merit in both approaches, I felt that putting the middle image offset gave the overall presentation more punch. :-)
-danny |
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06/11/2005 08:21:02 PM · #23 |
The backround changed from shot to shot to shot to shot. While it's not bad as it is you could consider using a tripod next time and having the backround be in the same place. You can easily get away with opening the frame up around him for shooting and cropping back down in post.
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06/11/2005 08:27:18 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by crabappl3:
Laurie I like the idea behind this. Thanks for supplying me with the full size images so that I could 'play'. Here's what I came up with. I will gladly give you the PSD file so all you have to do is change the Player's name, and put in the 3 photos for each pitcher. Shouldn't take you more than 10 minutes per player. This is done at a 16x20 aspect ratio so that you can print large for the parents if they like.
-danny
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Wow...that's awesome! I think it looks better than what I tried to do...thanks so much! I am sure the parents would love that. Now the work begins, finding three shots of each player that might look good enough for that triptych! :o)
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