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05/23/2005 10:38:28 AM · #1
The granular challenge says:
"Take a photograph in which your subject is granular, such as powder, sand, salt or dust."

I've just uploaded an image that yes, has plenty of the granular but not entirely! Are we to fill the frame with the stuff??
05/23/2005 10:44:44 AM · #2
I see no more reason why this should be 100% granular than I did why "pink" should be 100% pink...

R.
05/23/2005 11:26:45 AM · #3
Nope, it just says the subject should be granular. The subject is what the picture is really about, the conceptual focus of the photograph. It doesn't have to, and usually doesn't, completely fill the frame.

I will vote low for images where the subject doesn't appear to be the granular item though. If another object appears to be the most important object in the image, then that object is the subject rather than the granular item, so it doesn't meet the challenge. Just make the granular object the most important element in the image and you'll be fine.
05/23/2005 11:35:25 AM · #4
I would expect the subject to be visibly granular as well.
Explaininng the picture through the title is a no-no in my opinion.
05/23/2005 12:13:52 PM · #5
Phew! Got worried for a bit there, thanks for the reassurance.
05/23/2005 12:13:59 PM · #6
ahhhhh...the old title/no-title issue... ;^)

Originally posted by Tom_Robbrecht:

I would expect the subject to be visibly granular as well.
Explaininng the picture through the title is a no-no in my opinion.

05/23/2005 12:50:35 PM · #7
This will drive the loony out of the box thinkers to present an image with lots of grain, grain, grain. Cause grain is a two dimensional granule. Well, it is now noise and noise is not at all as interesting as silver halide. Noise is like that mote on the very tip of the nose.

On the serious side this challenge appears to have stumped many because the entry number is not astronomical. Remember that the granular comes in many different states. If the challenge was water and you presented ice or steam it would also be acceptable, though looked askansed by the literal.

Remember that granular is defined as non-uniform, yet I am sure that it can be artifially produced to be uniform, but who would bother. However, I would be careful what you mix the granular with or in the state you find it. The voters want to see the grains and not their suggestion. Salty sauce won't do, though sugar or salt crystal may stand a chance. But do not go too far.
05/23/2005 01:21:29 PM · #8
I'm not sure! But I think that things like powder and dust are not so granular...So the shot it's possible that didn't seem "granular"...
05/23/2005 01:24:20 PM · #9
Maybe "Particles" would have been a more appropriate title?
05/23/2005 01:53:38 PM · #10
Scratchin the negativity and replacing with best wishes for those participating and am looking forward to having that little negative voice inside my head proved wrong by those who rise to this challenge and produce outstanding photographs.

Message edited by author 2005-05-23 15:53:05.
05/23/2005 01:57:59 PM · #11
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05/23/2005 02:10:53 PM · #12
I'm waiting to see who gets the first comment that says "image is too grainy"

:)
05/23/2005 02:14:28 PM · #13
Or maybe "I don't see granular over here!" :-)
05/23/2005 02:19:21 PM · #14
I find it so funny that so many have come out against this challenge.

a) if you don't want to enter - don't... ;)

b) i think one of the problems is this challenge requires action, it forces people to think out of the box.

I in fact expect to see some amazing shots.


05/23/2005 02:32:07 PM · #15
I took this to mean like sand or salt or powder or saw dust just as it stated,,solid or loose its granular because the sand or salt or etc.. is there. Just my opinion,,I will go do one and heck with it,,I am not going to worry aobut whether it will get jusdged harshly because as long as it fits the rules and I like it thats what matters.
05/23/2005 02:34:27 PM · #16
I don't think I'll be entering this one. My poor little camera isn't up to shooting grains of anything, unfortunately. Maybe after this poor college time is over, I'll be able to upgrade to something that CAN handle this. Then I fully expect Granular II! :)
05/23/2005 02:35:00 PM · #17
I'm just hope no one else thinks of the same thing that i did ;)
now, where is my pepper shaker ?.......
05/24/2005 12:28:24 AM · #18
i hate the messes i make

edit reconsidered using image for challenge -sorry

Message edited by author 2005-05-24 00:33:59.
05/24/2005 01:08:30 AM · #19
Originally posted by sabphoto:

I'm waiting to see who gets the first comment that says "image is too grainy"

:)


ISO 3200 here I come :P
05/24/2005 01:25:13 AM · #20
Main reasons this challenge is argued against.
1) Subject will make a mess, camera runs risk of getting intragranulated.

2) Some folks fear macro

3)People that don't live near beaches will panic and run to their salt shakers, after a moment of contemplation, the notion will dawn on them that there are another 100 people just like them who don't have sand, and rush into the comforting arms of their salt and/or pepper shaker.

4)No one will want to enter their shot "Dust in the wind" and a week later find that half of DPC had the same title. Kansas referrences played out.

5) Someone will have an "original idea" and rush to DPC website to check the policy on drugs in photos. Will give up after a bout of uncertainty.

6) With the exception of dandruff, few people will be able to incorporate their housepets or babies in this shot. Expect a dandruff shot.

7) People will be too afraid to compete with my grantastic picture!

6)
05/24/2005 09:42:22 AM · #21
I am SURE my idea will be seen more than once in this challenge. BUT the way i executed it will be different.... I hope.
05/24/2005 10:08:11 AM · #22
1) Subject will make a mess, camera runs risk of getting intragranulated.
[[[Didn't have any threat to camera with my shot.]]]

2) Some folks fear macro
[[[Who says it has to be a macro shot? mine surely is not]]]

3)People that don't live near beaches will panic and run to their salt shakers
[[[One could always use cumin, corn meal, flour, sugar if you wanted something sweeter. Heck you could use powder sugar, brown sugar, and sugar in the raw. One could use oatmeal, sand, dirt (we live on a rocky planet...everyone has dirt just about). Sawdust. And so many more...]]]

4)No one will want to enter their shot "Dust in the wind" and a week later find that half of DPC had the same title. Kansas referrences played out. [[[Well, than don't use such a title if it bothers you. Or call it "Wind in Dust"]]]

5) Someone will have an "original idea" and rush to DPC website to check the policy on drugs in photos. Will give up after a bout of uncertainty.
[[[Cut out a red circle with a line thru it. Hold it up in front of your great drug representation idea. Now it just became an "anti-drug" message and totally acceptable for DPC.]]]

6) With the exception of dandruff, few people will be able to incorporate their housepets or babies in this shot. Expect a dandruff shot.
[[[You my dear sir have never owned a domestic cat. It's called "KITTY LITTER".]]]

Okay, with a bit of creativity and a few minutes thought every single one of these can be worked around. Yes, I too had my brain puzzled but I feel like I came up with a good idea and got a great shot. However, I do not expect to win a ribbon. Because I full fledge believe there will be people out there with even more creative and better technical shots than I.

:)

7) People will be too afraid to compete with my grantastic picture!
05/24/2005 10:24:47 AM · #23
i don't think my subject for this challenge will be used for anyone elses. No one has even hinted at it even being a possibility but i am beginning to wonder if it is "granular" enough. I did a macro so it doesnt look to be what it really is. I also must say that i have something else in the photo which i now think will be marked down because i think some will view it as my "true" subject. I had taken about 40 shots of my subject and i wasnt at all pleased with the outcome. i had decided to skip this challenge as i couldnt get my vision to become a digital inspiration .then my daughter brought something to me to photograph.I pulled the shots off the camera the next day as i liked what i saw there. i really dont care about votes for this one....i just really liked the photo and it met the challenge so i entered. :o)
05/24/2005 10:41:16 AM · #24
as long as you are having fun...

albeit, I spend innummerous amounts of time on this challenge. (upwards of 5-6 hours). So I hope I do well. I really really am hoping to break that 6.0 mark. Don't expect a ribbon. But a top 10% would be great!

The last (and only other) time I spent several hours on a challenge - I ribboned. Mind you...it was a "brown ribbon". :\ *lol*

Message edited by author 2005-05-24 10:42:19.
05/24/2005 10:48:50 AM · #25
I've taken more shots for this one than any I've entered thus far, and I'm still not really satisfied! The first idea I abandoned for thinking it was going to be too common. The second idea was really cool (IMO), but I couldn't pull it off the way I wanted to. Took a break, went on an outing with one of the kids (of course I always have my camera), and voila - there it was. At least the best of my options so far anyways... ;^)
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