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05/23/2005 01:44:41 PM · #102

Originally posted by Kavey:

Originally posted by graphicfunk:
It is best to travel light. Trails sometimes outlive their usefulness.

Are you doing a Zeus Zen impersonation? ;o)

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lol

05/23/2005 01:53:44 PM · #103

Originally posted by Kavey:

In the meantime, perhaps we should all make sure we report any links of this nature to SC using the Contact feature as I think it's an appalling breach of trust and friendship.

You can use the "report post" feature to call to our attention any signatures you think we should be aware of. Some people have been putting this to good use already.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

05/23/2005 02:54:42 PM · #104

I think if done tastefully and thoughtfully then they're fine. I went thru several revisions with my recent signature. I bounced it off several people in a thread and got good feedback that led to refinement.

My sig uses an image but the height is less than many of the multi-line signatures. Probably, not much more than 2-3 lines of text. But i think it conveys the message more nicely than simple text would.

I also worked it so that the entire image is less than 3k. Which is a fast enough download even on 56k and for anyone who reads the forum regularly, the image is likely cached. So although i use an image i think it is both minimal to scrolling and for download. (Most browsers cache images, so once it's downloaded the first time it does not need to be re-downloaded if viewed regularly.)

- Jason

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

05/23/2005 03:07:08 PM · #105

Originally posted by rex:

I agree with you and GeneralE.

This is the most people I've had agree with me in months : )

Kavey

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

Sigma 18-125mm f/3.5-5.6 DC for Canon

05/23/2005 03:14:18 PM · #106

Originally posted by mk:

Originally posted by Kavey:
In the meantime, perhaps we should all make sure we report any links of this nature to SC using the Contact feature as I think it's an appalling breach of trust and friendship.

You can use the "report post" feature to call to our attention any signatures you think we should be aware of. Some people have been putting this to good use already.

Thanks MK - I assume that the report post feature ties the comments made to a particular post so we wouldn't need to include the user name etc?

Sigma 18-125mm f/3.5-5.6 DC for Canon

05/23/2005 03:15:31 PM · #107

Originally posted by Kavey:

Thanks MK - I assume that the report post feature ties the comments made to a particular post so we wouldn't need to include the user name etc?

Correct.

Kavey

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

05/23/2005 03:20:26 PM · #108

Jason, yes I followed that discussion and I think your current signature is a VAST improvement on the draft designs you floated. That said I still think it's worth using it only once or intermittently when posting repeatedly in the same thread.

I try and remember that myself, though sometimes forget to turn off the Show Signature tick...

05/23/2005 03:21:57 PM · #109

I agree, i think that DPC should be modified to offer the following choices

a) "always include signature"

b) "include signature on first post to thread"

c) "include signature only when clicked"

05/23/2005 03:38:31 PM · #110

There's a box under each "post reply" area where you can opt not to include your signature.

05/23/2005 04:32:59 PM · #111

yes...but you if you turned it on last time, you have to remember to turn it off this time...

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

05/23/2005 04:33:21 PM · #112

case in point, i forgot to do so in that post

deapee

Kodak V803

05/23/2005 05:37:26 PM · #113

Like I've stated...everyone should get a fair vote. What if 500 people want them on and 100 people want them off? Just because 9 of those 100 people are on the site council, they get there way? HOGWASH!

Bring it to a voting poll. If it wins, I have no problem, I just want my fair vote.

Currently, the site coucil 'represents' us...but it shouldn't -- and if it does, there should be an election held for site council members!

Like I said, just because 20 people cry doesn't mean they are the majority. Bring it to the polls.

muckpond

Sigma 15mm f/2.8 EX Diagonal Fisheye for Nikon

05/23/2005 05:39:12 PM · #114

Originally posted by deapee:

Bring it to the polls.

not. a. democracy.

rex

Canon PowerShot SD780

05/23/2005 05:39:50 PM · #115

not a democracy here if so we would have to pay taxes to support SC. ;-)

Message edited by author 2005-05-23 17:40:03.

grandmarginal

Nikon D500

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 VR DG IF-ED

05/23/2005 05:46:08 PM · #116

Originally posted by deapee:

So then turn them off...or leave them on...mine have always been on, and I've never been annoyed by anyone's signature. seriously, is it this important?

Is this important? Jeez, it looks like your life's on the line judging by the way you keep telling us (over and over) how you feel about the issue.

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

05/23/2005 06:12:54 PM · #117

Since this thread first started, we've been informed that this was an issue already under consideration by the Site Council due to the impact signatures have on site performance, and possible violations of the Terms of Service we all agreed to when we signed up to participate. This is not just about who may or may not be annoyed with certain signatures, but also about how the site functions.

While a poll would be a nice way for Drew and Langdon to get a idea for how our active members feel about abuse of signatures, given the fact that there other things at stake here I'm not sure it would be a great way to resolve this. Whatever the Site Administrators and Site Council decides to do, I'll support it wholeheartedly. The true objective here is to have a site that performs well and is consistent with the guidelines stated in the Terms of Use.

I think the Site Council does a great job, and I'm happy to have them represent me.

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

05/23/2005 06:51:52 PM · #118

Originally posted by rex:

not a democracy here if so we would have to pay taxes to support SC. ;-)

hmmmmmmmmmm, now that's a thought.

Of course, I cast a vote for "my" officials, and many of them still dont' do what I want.

edit: stoopid typpos

Message edited by author 2005-05-23 18:54:18.

Jewellian

Pentax *ist DL

Sigma 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical HF for Pentax

05/23/2005 07:04:21 PM · #119

Originally posted by rex:

not a democracy here if so we would have to pay taxes to support SC. ;-)

If we have to pay them taxes... do we get a refund at the end of the year?

edit: stoopid typpos.... hehe

Message edited by author 2005-05-23 19:04:50.

rex

Canon PowerShot SD780

05/23/2005 07:15:44 PM · #120

Originally posted by karmat:

Originally posted by rex:
not a democracy here if so we would have to pay taxes to support SC. ;-)

hmmmmmmmmmm, now that's a thought.

Of course, I cast a vote for "my" officials, and many of them still dont' do what I want.

edit: stoopid typpos

I support you guys. I was just joking. You probably know this but just wanted to clarify

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

05/23/2005 07:21:05 PM · #121

Originally posted by Jewellian:

[quote=rex]
If we have to pay them taxes... do we get a refund at the end of the year?

Only if you overpay. Which isn't likely. Muahahaha.

deapee

Kodak V803

05/23/2005 10:46:34 PM · #122

Originally posted by muckpond:

not. a. democracy.

Democracy:

The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community.

Nope...definately not a democracy. By that definition, or this one...

Majority rule

Why would a site want to do something based on nine individuals' thoughts -- why not take the majority into consideration? You all bash me for saying I want a poll...what is so wrong with that?

The majority of the site thinks the signatures are fine just how they are. Yes, that is my opinion -- it may be your opinion that the majority doesn't like it. If we never have a poll, we will never know. Like I've said time and time again (and yes, now, finally, I feel like I am, in fact, beating a dead horse) bring it to the polls...if it turns out most want them changed, then by all means change it. The way it is currently...if you don't like the signatures, turn them off...works fine for me.

OK, the thread stoppers or whatever the hell our name is were here. ;-) Time to lock this one down.

muckpond

Sigma 15mm f/2.8 EX Diagonal Fisheye for Nikon

05/23/2005 11:26:47 PM · #123

the point here is not what "everyone" prefers or thinks. the point is what is best for the site.

currently, there are absolutely no restrictions on the contents of forum signatures. we have gone for a long time without restrictions and have had relatively few problems. however, the recent trend of bigger, better, badder signatures is becoming an issue.

1) they detract from the readability of the forums, which are arguably one of the biggest benefits of this site

2) large signature files that are pulled from slow or unreliable servers affect the performance of the site and make it a drain for everyone

3) large signatures affect the length and loading time of some of the forum pages. we are trying to be considerate to most everyone, including those on dialup connections.

4) one of the unwritten, but major, benefits of the site is that it is cleanly laid out and free from advertising. if you would like to see the difference between clean, readable forums and a complete mess, please refer to the forums at fotofight.com and then come back to DPC for a while.

finally, the purpose of the SC is to help move DPC into the "right" direction and keep it fun and beneficial for everyone. allowing signatures to degrade into a contest of "my banner ad is better than your banner ad" does nothing to benefit the site or its users, and THAT is why we are working to define some parameters for sigs. just because it is not a completely overwhelming problem right now does not mean that we should leave it unchecked.

deapee

Kodak V803

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

05/23/2005 11:33:40 PM · #124

Originally posted by muckpond:

What the hell is up with your signature? You're obviously just trying to stir something up. VERY mature of a site council member. To put a HUGE flashy 500x240 pixel GIF flashing annoying colors in it. Oh man, you are so childish it's not even funny. With people like you 'representing' me, and this community, I can't help but say it's a downward spiral from here.

For those who have signatures off...here is your SITE COUNCIL member's signature...

muckpond