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05/16/2005 12:16:35 PM · #1
This seems somewhat redundant to me. Isn't silhouette using lighting as an integral part of the photo?
05/16/2005 12:19:38 PM · #2
Originally posted by Alienyst:

This seems somewhat redundant to me. Isn't silhouette using lighting as an integral part of the photo?


Everytime that I read something with the word redundant in it, I read it with the word twice. You know like...

Originally posted by :

This seems somewhat redundant redundant to me. Isn't silhouette using lighting as an integral part of the photo?


and Hey! How do you get EXIF data off of a Polaroid? I have some ideas...

Message edited by author 2005-05-16 12:20:13.
05/16/2005 12:52:52 PM · #3
Originally posted by Alienyst:

This seems somewhat redundant to me. Isn't silhouette using lighting as an integral part of the photo?


I think what they are asking for is a creative use of light, be it natural or studio. The lighting should be a key element of the image, such a the warm light of a sunset hitting a statue. Or a shaft of light coming through a window to light the scene.
05/16/2005 08:11:43 PM · #4
Shouldn't this be called LIGHTING II? Or Lighting revisited?
Ligthing challenge - Oct. 13 2003 - Oct. 19 2003

EDIT: Inspiration......
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Message edited by author 2005-05-16 20:13:07.
05/16/2005 08:16:11 PM · #5
Originally posted by scuds:

Shouldn't this be called LIGHTING II? Or Lighting revisited?
Ligthing challenge - Oct. 13 2003 - Oct. 19 2003



SCUDS P.I.


05/16/2005 08:18:21 PM · #6
Originally posted by rex:

Originally posted by scuds:

Shouldn't this be called LIGHTING II? Or Lighting revisited?
Ligthing challenge - Oct. 13 2003 - Oct. 19 2003



SCUDS P.I.


that'll be 1000 bucks just for the info.....

or maybe a ribbon.....A blue one is ok

Message edited by author 2005-05-16 20:21:55.
05/16/2005 08:21:37 PM · #7
american cinematographer online

this is a good place to get ideas about lighting. sillouettes usually just take 1 light to work. this lighting execise could take a whole crap load if you wanted.

at work we call this "available lighting", not because god is gaffing, but because the DP has reached his level of compadence ( peter principle ) and makes the lighting crew take every availble light off the truck for his 'vision'.
05/16/2005 10:42:51 PM · #8
A bit like dreams being only a couple of challenges after surreal. Seems a bit pointless to me. If you can't think of something for one, the other's going to be tough too.
05/16/2005 11:23:11 PM · #9
For the record, I have shot 54 pics for the lighting challenge so far and all have but one light source. Now if any of them are any good or not, who knows. But I picked a theme and stuck to it and will continue tomorrow until I get it right - or at least until I like the result.
05/16/2005 11:27:17 PM · #10
Originally posted by pgatt:

A bit like dreams being only a couple of challenges after surreal. Seems a bit pointless to me. If you can't think of something for one, the other's going to be tough too.


This brings us back to a thread i opened long time ago... Why do people give challenge suggestions if you almost never see these challenges being accomplshed....
Just a thought..
Sorry for the bad english.
05/17/2005 12:36:35 AM · #11
I'm not sure what the question is here, silhouette is just one category of so many in 'lighing' options. A short list to maybe jog some thoughts: (add 'lighting' after each) studio, portfolio, side, silhouette, back-lit (transparent), low, high-key, window, soft, reflected, colored, indoor, outdoor, sunset/rise, low-level/long exposure, under-water, mood, refracted, neon, internal, rim, candle, light rope, filtered...
I think I'll be selfish and refrain from listing the type of lighting I plan to post. Learn, be creative, and have fun! Good luck all!


05/17/2005 01:27:38 AM · #12
Originally posted by Alienyst:

This seems somewhat redundant to me. Isn't silhouette using lighting as an integral part of the photo?


All squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are square.

Similarly ...

All silhouettes involve lighting but not all lighting involves silhouettes.
05/17/2005 01:29:34 AM · #13
I'm a moron and hit quote instead of edit. At least I didnt report my own post!

Message edited by author 2005-05-17 01:31:38.
05/17/2005 01:30:35 AM · #14
Originally posted by moodville:

[quote=scuds] Shouldn't this be called LIGHTING II? Or Lighting revisited?
Ligthing challenge - Oct. 13 2003 - Oct. 19 2003


Then wouldnt it be Lighting III since we had a light challenge in January this year?

Message edited by author 2005-05-17 01:30:52.
05/17/2005 01:48:26 AM · #15
Hey Johnson...I went to the site you posted but couldn't find anything relevant...it may be too late for me to focus well, but can you point to something in particular that would help me from American Cinematographer online?
Thanks.

Originally posted by swinging_johnson_v1:

american cinematographer online

this is a good place to get ideas about lighting. sillouettes usually just take 1 light to work. this lighting execise could take a whole crap load if you wanted.

at work we call this "available lighting", not because god is gaffing, but because the DP has reached his level of compadence ( peter principle ) and makes the lighting crew take every availble light off the truck for his 'vision'.
05/17/2005 01:50:09 AM · #16
Originally posted by moodville:

Originally posted by moodville:

[quote=scuds] Shouldn't this be called LIGHTING II? Or Lighting revisited?
Ligthing challenge - Oct. 13 2003 - Oct. 19 2003


Then wouldnt it be Lighting III since we had a light challenge in January this year?


It seems reasonable enough to me, since light is the sine qua non of what we do; without light, no image. I see differences between the 3 challenges, subtle ones but interesting nonetheless.

In the "Light" challenge, this was the description: "Any definition of the word is acceptable for this challenge. Enjoy!" ΓΆ€” entries dealt not only with "visible" light, but with light-as-weight. lie-as-not-fatty, and so forth. There were no limits.

The currently-underway "Silhouette" challenge is about using light itself in a prescribed way, a very specific way.

The 2003 "Lighting" challenge was a year and a half ago, and this was its ruleset: "Make use of light to really set the mood tone of your photograph."

The current "Lighting" challenge is described thusly: "Lighting is arguably the most important element in photography. Without light, you can't capture an image. Use lighting in a creative fashion this week so that the lighting itself is a key factor in your composition."

Now that's an interesting challenge. Certainly there is overlap with the 2003 version, but that was a somewhat broader-based challenge than this one. Here the lighting itself must be a "key factor" in our images, which at least suggests that the light must be "visible", at least visibly manifesting itself in a most noticeable way. The 3 winning images from the 2003 challenge were linked earlier; I would submit that the blue-ribbon photo of the deer doesn't really "meet" this challenge. It would have made a FINE entry in "silhouette", though. The red and yellow entries distinctly DO meet this challenge square-on; the singer in an in-your-face fashion, with aggressively visible light, and the pottery in a hauntingly subtle fashion, making the very light itself palpable by its effect on the subject.

Personally, I LOVE challenges having to do with some pure sense of "light", as this, to me, is the one indispensable skill photographers must have. We have to learn to see the light, deeply and well. So I don't think this is too may of them, obviously, and I like how it is piggybacked on silhouettes because that is fresh in peoples' minds and it will help keep them focused on light.

Robt.
05/17/2005 02:04:16 AM · #17
I imagine we'll be seeing a lot of god's rays in this challenge.
05/17/2005 02:11:07 AM · #18


This is raw image (except preping for DPC upload). No sharpening has been done.

It appears as though the subject here was is a very exciting truck (LOL). The lighting is a somewhat unique alternative. Anyone want to take a stab at it? (we are not critiqueing the image, only the source of light)

Message edited by author 2005-05-17 02:12:23.
05/17/2005 02:12:41 AM · #19
Originally posted by sofapez:



This is raw image (except preping for DPC upload). It appears as though the subject here was is a very exciting truck (LOL). The lighting is a somewhat unique alternative. Anyone want to take a stab at it? (we are not critiqueing the image, only the source of light)


Possibly a flash of lightning?
05/17/2005 02:14:00 AM · #20
Originally posted by keegbow:

Originally posted by sofapez:



This is raw image (except preping for DPC upload). It appears as though the subject here was is a very exciting truck (LOL). The lighting is a somewhat unique alternative. Anyone want to take a stab at it? (we are not critiqueing the image, only the source of light)


Possibly a flash of lightning?


Very Good! I thought it take longer than that.
05/17/2005 02:17:39 AM · #21
I was waiting out a line of severe thunderstorms in the parking lot of a truck stop. This is what happens when I get bored. I was trying for a bolt of lightning.
05/17/2005 06:11:31 AM · #22
when i read the discription of the challenge 'Lighting' i was more thinking of images like these where its is the light on the subject that creates the 'interesting' aspect rather than the subject itself



i wonder if im right about this
05/17/2005 06:20:00 AM · #23
when i read the discription of the challenge 'Lighting' i was more thinking of images like these where its is the light on the subject that creates the 'interesting' aspect rather than the subject itself
me too!





Message edited by author 2005-05-17 09:01:52.
05/17/2005 06:23:10 AM · #24
Originally posted by goodman:

when i read the discription of the challenge 'Lighting' i was more thinking of images like these where its is the light on the subject that creates the 'interesting' aspect rather than the subject itself
me too!



i knew u would:)

Message edited by author 2005-05-17 06:26:01.
05/17/2005 06:53:28 AM · #25
Originally posted by sofapez:

Or a shaft of light coming through a window to light the scene.

Would that be a nekked Darth Vader?
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