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05/15/2005 05:49:24 AM · #1 |
too much details or acceptable as silhouette?
NOTE: I'm not entering this in the challenge, nor am I entering anything similar to this. I'm just looking forward very much to the "silhouette, not silhouette" controversies that's sure to happen in the next days.
Message edited by author 2005-05-15 06:14:05.
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05/15/2005 05:59:21 AM · #2 |
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05/15/2005 06:01:39 AM · #3 |
| Very good job! I love the sky - nice work! :) |
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05/15/2005 06:07:10 AM · #4 |
Very nice!
Be aware, though, a lot of voters value anonymity in the challenges. If your entry for the challenge is this photograph or something similar, they are likely to mark you down for posting it to the forums.
If you're planning to enter this photo it would be best to remove it from your post now.
-Terry
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05/15/2005 06:12:58 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Very nice!
Be aware, though, a lot of voters value anonymity in the challenges. If your entry for the challenge is this photograph or something similar, they are likely to mark you down for posting it to the forums.
If you're planning to enter this photo it would be best to remove it from your post now.
-Terry |
Hey, thanks Terry. Nope, am not entering this or anything similar to this. I've got a feeling the image I'm entering is going to get spanked because I reckon many would see it as borderline. Ergo this post. I simply wanted to see how far from "acceptable" the entry is. Am not pulling out the entry, though, as I like that image a lot.
If you think this thread is out of line, as the submission is still going on, etc, then my apologies and feel free to yank it out of the forum.
-Rob
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05/15/2005 08:01:05 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by rgo:
too much details or acceptable as silhouette?
NOTE: I'm not entering this in the challenge, nor am I entering anything similar to this. I'm just looking forward very much to the "silhouette, not silhouette" controversies that's sure to happen in the next days. |
This raises an interesting point. You ask if there is "too much detail" for this to qualify as a silhouette. And yet, on the figures themselves, there is ZERO detail; they are pure silhouettes. I take it from this that you, and possibly others, wonder if detail in an entry other than in the part actually silhouetted makes the image "less of a silhouette."
My answer to that would emphatically "NO"... Some of the very best silhouettes contrast simple black shapes against rich and complex backgrounds. It's the very interplay of the plain & the complex that makes the images work. This would be an incredibly boring challenge if it had nothing in it but, say, soaring gulls silhouetted against a bright, blue sky. Yecch... I'm hoping for much more complexity than that.
This 22nd place image in "Minimalism" is, IMO, borderline based on the above; that is to say, the subject itself is a true silhouette, but it's SO small, and SO surrounded by complexity that it doesn't really fit the challenge that well:
This one (28th in the same challenge), on the other hand, fits my idea of an interesting "silhouette" shot that unquestionably meets the challenge:
I wonder how the votres are gonna feel about this?
Robt.
Message edited by author 2005-05-15 08:03:07.
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05/15/2005 08:37:47 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
Originally posted by rgo:
too much details or acceptable as silhouette?
NOTE: I'm not entering this in the challenge, nor am I entering anything similar to this. I'm just looking forward very much to the "silhouette, not silhouette" controversies that's sure to happen in the next days. |
This raises an interesting point. You ask if there is "too much detail" for this to qualify as a silhouette. And yet, on the figures themselves, there is ZERO detail; they are pure silhouettes. I take it from this that you, and possibly others, wonder if detail in an entry other than in the part actually silhouetted makes the image "less of a silhouette." |
Actually, I meant on the silhouetted figures, do we have too much details? My monitor tells me there shades of white, and there are visible "folds" etc on the the girls' clothes. Maybe my monitor needs calibration.
Also, if I'd taken the shot from the same perspective as the girls, but the light source came from only the right side of the picture, rendering a graduated silhouette effect from right to left, ie the right most girl is more "lit" and the left most is deeply toned and is more of a silhouette, how would voters here see that?
Thanks,
Rob
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05/15/2005 08:46:50 AM · #8 |
Ah, I'm not seeing that unevenness, and I calibrate my monitor. The type of monitors most laptops have are notorious for revealing every time flaw in an image, they are abnormally sharp and contrasty from my perspective; might that be it?
Anyway, to answer your hypothetical, I'd think the graduated silhouette would be doomed to a poor score. I could be wrong. But that enters the realm of high-contrast, modeled light, and that ain't a silhouette, technically. I'm expecting the voters to crucify images with detail within the silhouettes. But I've been wrong before... many times...
Robt.
Robt.
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05/15/2005 09:30:20 AM · #9 |
Rob - If I look hard enough (now that you've mentioned it) I can see some light coloration in the dresses and the folds of the dress of the one on the far right. However, I think anyone marking this image down for that would be nitpicking to an extreme degree. Very much a silhouette, and a very nice one at that IMO.
A definition of a silhouette I found to be quite clear is this one:
"A silhouette is defined as an outline of something that appears dark against a lighter background. This usually occurs by exposing for the background, which underexposes the subject and produces a silhouette. Some silhouettes completely erase discernible detail in the subject, while some allow small areas of detail around the edges of the subject to maintain depth."
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