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05/11/2005 12:03:53 AM · #1 |
Since I'm relatively new around here and new to digital photography, there are lots of things I don't know about photo quality. I know when I see a shot that appeals to me, but it seems there is a lot more going on beyond that that is being judged.
If I am still learning the fine art of pixel placement and such why should I be allowed to judge another. Wouldn't it be better to keep voting among those that are placing better in the challenges? say averaging 5.5 or whatever and above. At least this way when you get a 2 or a 9 you know that the voter probably knows enough of the technical side and that you are probably getting a more accurate score.
I saw someone's complaint re noise where many felt that the noise was too intense when it wasn't noise after all.
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05/11/2005 12:07:09 AM · #2 |
I think you should ask yourself if you know the differance between good and bad, ugly and beautiful, unique and common, plain and dramatic.
Honestly answer these questions, and what you learn from photography will ultimatly expand upon these questions.
unless you are blind, you are qualified.
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05/11/2005 12:09:29 AM · #3 |
I voted and commented on every picture in a challenge before I even started to enter challenges.
I have never won a ribbon, don't own a dSLR, never owned or used a 35mm camera so I guess I shouldn't vote :( |
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05/11/2005 12:10:43 AM · #4 |
Absolutely!!! Please vote. Tell us what you like, what you don't like. You may go back in a few weeks and say "Did I really say that?" But commenting on photos also will help you with your own photography. I know I question some of my first rounds of comments but I'm getting better and I have a better idea of how to improve my own work. Most of all, have fun!!!
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05/11/2005 12:20:41 AM · #5 |
| I looked and voted a long time before I got up courage enough to enter an image. It is a good way to get into the site and learn. |
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05/11/2005 12:27:33 AM · #6 |
The triangle challenge just started, looking at my score, maybe no one should vote...
Just kidding! Even if you don't have much knowledge on photography, you can can still vote based upon whether you like it or not... Everybody's trained to that. Go ahead and comment also ! Tell the author what you like about the picture... Say you like the subject or not, if you like the colors, tell us your impressions in your own word. Anyone can do it. |
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05/11/2005 12:28:32 AM · #7 |
People bring up some good points here. By all means, vote and comment, it's an awesome way to learn. You don't have to know a bunch of technical stuff, just look and think if you like it or not. I've found it interesting, after learning some stuff, I go back to some of the first challenges I voted and commented on and I say "Oh, I said I liked that pic, now I can see why!"
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05/11/2005 12:31:32 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by briantammy:
Since I'm relatively new around here and new to digital photography, there are lots of things I don't know about photo quality. I know when I see a shot that appeals to me, but it seems there is a lot more going on beyond that that is being judged.
If I am still learning the fine art of pixel placement and such why should I be allowed to judge another. Wouldn't it be better to keep voting among those that are placing better in the challenges? say averaging 5.5 or whatever and above. At least this way when you get a 2 or a 9 you know that the voter probably knows enough of the technical side and that you are probably getting a more accurate score.
I saw someone's complaint re noise where many felt that the noise was too intense when it wasn't noise after all.
brian |
I would rather have your vote and comment than the same from an 'expert'.
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05/11/2005 01:22:36 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
I would rather have your vote and comment than the same from an 'expert'. |
Ditto! |
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05/11/2005 01:36:03 AM · #10 |
So what I'm hearing is that the technical qualities aren't important if the shot isn't one you'll like to see hanging on your wall. These photos then are ranked by the visual appeal or impact only?
Message edited by author 2005-05-11 01:36:34. |
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05/11/2005 01:39:47 AM · #11 |
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05/11/2005 01:45:31 AM · #12 |
Different people use (and are allowed to use) different criteria for deciding what constitutes a "good" or "bad" photo. Personally, I rank creative interpretations, interesting subjects, and humor above technical perfection. Some people think strict adherence to a straightforward interpretation of the chalenge is paramount. It doesn't really matter.
When you open a photo, you will probably (subconsciously) say to yourself "this is good/bad because ..." or "I like/dislike this because ..." Just complete the sentence, and you have a comment. If you don't care to post it as a comment, try to interpret your reaction as a 1-10 score.
Making those comments is how you learn photography. You don't need to know how to do or fix something, just what it is you'd like to do or fix. There are plenty of people to help you learn how to do it, once you can describe what you want to do.
Message edited by author 2005-05-11 01:46:13. |
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05/11/2005 10:05:00 AM · #13 |
I try to comment on as many submissions as possibly (failing miserably lately - the numbers are HUGE!)
My comments are rarely technical in nature (more to the composition and color issues). Often, when I write something thru my reaction, someone else may actually have written the technical explanation or solution that speaks to it. Now, we are a team helping a new photographer or an expert.
The only people that these comments don't help are those who are highly insulted that you spoke "your" truth. Don't ever be afraid to speak your reactions (without attacking the photographer, of course.) If they will not learn, then make that your lesson too.
This is a great bunch of people - enjoy the ride! |
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05/11/2005 10:14:25 AM · #14 |
I could use more comment from less professional viewers. I don't sell my work to professional photographers. I sell them to the stor clerks and house wives. "Very cute my wife would love that shot" would do far more for me than " I wold have used f3 instead of F4 to shoot that shot." or my favorite "not in perfect focus or grainy" personal opinions are what I want on my comments. Not a mountain of technical jiberish.
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05/11/2005 10:21:14 AM · #15 |
Forget this... You can also comment after the results are in. That's really helpful too. You get to see all the comments then and see how yours matches up.
edit: Don't forget this ...
Message edited by author 2005-05-14 16:36:23. |
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05/11/2005 10:26:55 AM · #16 |
why shouldn't beginners vote for pictures in challenges?
It's the mix of votes from beginners, amateurs, pros and everybody else which makes the final result. it wouldn't be fair to just get your challenge submissions rated by the more adept users here. ;) |
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05/11/2005 10:28:52 AM · #17 |
It's a democracy...
Edit:
Isn't it?
Message edited by author 2005-05-11 10:29:06.
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05/11/2005 10:32:02 AM · #18 |
Beginners can provide fresh ideas. By all means, vote and comment away.
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