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04/20/2005 08:23:03 PM · #1 |
I got this comment from BradP on my Abandoned Building entry:
As a suggestion, try taking the image into Photoshop (assuming you have it), and in the Hue/Saturation adjustments, take the yellow channel hue and saturation to the right a little (may 10 pts) and bright the lightness down a bit (10-20 pts) to give the yellows more of a darker, richer green look, and bring the red saturation up just a little
I have tried it and I like it better
Entry:
BradP's Suggestion:
What do you think? Also wanted to give a public thanks to Brad for taking the time to offer suggestions. It is people like you Brad that make this website a pleasant place to be a part of. Thank you.
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04/20/2005 08:34:25 PM · #2 |
What a difference. Brad certainly knows his colors!!!! I wish I had that gift. Great job!
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04/20/2005 08:34:27 PM · #3 |
I agree. Excellent comment that made a tangible difference in the finished image, while still adhering to your vision of where the image should go.
Robt.
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04/20/2005 08:36:21 PM · #4 |
Just wish I would have known how to do this stuff before I entered. I need to get a book on Photoshop 7 for sure and read it.
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04/20/2005 08:40:15 PM · #5 |
That looks great now, Rex, but I'd mark it down for not having the requisite ghost in it.
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04/20/2005 08:44:55 PM · #6 |
| I've taken PS class twice now (slow learner). Although they teach you how to use the tools and make adjustments, it still gets down to experimenting and experience. Finding that right mixture of saturation, brightness, hue, etc... |
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04/20/2005 08:45:22 PM · #7 |
| The brilliant splash of sunlight in the foreground of Rex's original entry is reminiscent of typical woodland scenes whereas Brad's adjustments almost convey a sense of overcast sky. Brad's is easier on the eye and Rex's almost painful to the eye. Perhaps something scaled in between? |
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04/20/2005 08:48:01 PM · #8 |
BradP comment/suggestion - "Mixed feelings here on this shot.
Angle seems a bit extreme for the point of view, yet adds something in it's own way.
Not sure she was really needed in the shot to give perspective, as she seems to become a major focal point in the shot.
Bringing the brightness down a bit and the contrst up may help as the saturation levels seem a bit faded......."
original submitted to challenge
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04/20/2005 08:49:13 PM · #9 |
| Very nice work there indeed,,quite a difference,,and I agree with people like brad it really makes a difference. |
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04/20/2005 08:49:49 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by undieyatch:
BradP comment/suggestion - "Mixed feelings here on this shot.
Angle seems a bit extreme for the point of view, yet adds something in it's own way.
Not sure she was really needed in the shot to give perspective, as she seems to become a major focal point in the shot.
Bringing the brightness down a bit and the contrst up may help as the saturation levels seem a bit faded......."
original submitted to challenge
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I think BradP's suggestions work better
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04/20/2005 08:53:35 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by rex:
Just wish I would have known how to do this stuff before I entered. I need to get a book on Photoshop 7 for sure and read it. |
I don't think you are going to find that type of advice and instruction in a PS book. :)
The most interesting thing about Brad's suggestion is not only does it make the colors better, but it also has a dramatic and somewhat unexpected impact on perceived focus. Now there is a lot more detail showing and it appears in much better focus.
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04/20/2005 08:55:01 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
Originally posted by rex:
Just wish I would have known how to do this stuff before I entered. I need to get a book on Photoshop 7 for sure and read it. |
I don't think you are going to find that type of advice and instruction in a PS book. :)
The most interesting thing about Brad's suggestion is not only does it make the colors better, but it also has a dramatic and somewhat unexpected impact on perceived focus. Now there is a lot more detail showing and it appears in much better focus. |
You are right I just need to play with it and ask questions.
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04/20/2005 08:58:31 PM · #13 |
Hey Rex,
Thanks for the PM and the kinds words here.
I'm glad it made a difference. Our eyes are not always what the camera records and even if it is, we can easily adjust it towards what we would like it to be.
Another adjustment to give a richer, deeper feel to foliage beside what I suggested, is to go into adjustments, selectives, drop-down and go to green and move the bottom (black) slider to the right (as needed/wanted) and do the same with the yellow too. Because you are doing it to the whole image, the edit is completely within the open challenge "legalities".
I took your second edit and played with it a bit more and took it to an extreme in a way to show the power of adjustments:
- Original Submission ---- Rex's 2nd Edit ---------- My edited edit ---- |
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04/20/2005 09:03:17 PM · #14 |
| BradP's expert opinion and suggestion he made to me is of course a tribute to his excellent eye and understanding of the possibilities of an image. Not to steal his thunder nor diminish his suggestion, (I think extremely insightful) both of the images I show on this page were made previous to the challenge. I suppose I may have picked the wrong version to enter, but I have my doubt that the image would have faired any better regardless of which one I had entered. And I must add I picked the one I liked the best. |
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04/20/2005 09:06:18 PM · #15 |
Again you amaze me. You have taken an ok photo of mine and made it a framable photo. Thanks for taking the time. You are awesome.
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04/20/2005 09:19:39 PM · #16 |
| What I like the most about these PS changes....is that you look at the photo and it looks real....not fake. When the photo looks fake to me....it's been PSed too much. |
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04/20/2005 09:32:04 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by colyla:
What I like the most about these PS changes....is that you look at the photo and it looks real....not fake. When the photo looks fake to me....it's been PSed too much. |
I think it's fair to say a LOT of people have NO idea how much photoshopping of "real" images has sneaked under their radar. Photoshop is what allows us to bring the digital world into alignment with perceived reality, and as long as we don't cross that line nobody even knows we've done it. As far as I'm concerned, the "altered image" posted by Rex after Brad's tutelage is MORE real than the image that came out of his camera with Canon's arbitrary software decisions appended to it. Canon doesn't KNOW what was "really" there; rex does, and all he needs is the tools in his hand to realize that reality in the posted image.
Robt.
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04/20/2005 10:11:54 PM · #18 |
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04/20/2005 10:13:48 PM · #19 |
Wow, Brad...what did you do??? Mind listing your PP?
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04/20/2005 10:22:30 PM · #20 |
Hi André,
I took the liberty of doing the same thing to yours as I did to Rex's shot and did a little (real minor) adjustments, and again, took it a little to an extreme for comparison:
----- As submitted --------- Your second edit ---------My edited edit -----
Not sure if realism was what you were trying to portray, or if the subdued look was. I guess I'll call mine "embellished realism".
Again, all in Open Challenge legalities, no spot editing, and took about 2 minutes.
Message edited by author 2005-04-20 22:23:33. |
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04/20/2005 10:25:47 PM · #21 |
OK, Brad, you are depressing us all thinking of how wonderful our photos mightlook IF you came over and played for a while . . . . lol.
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04/20/2005 10:27:17 PM · #22 |
Brad's final one here looks to me most closely like what I would expect out of the camera. The image as submitted looks very stylized to me- the extreme angle with the muted tones. I like both.
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04/20/2005 10:29:17 PM · #23 |
Hey Brad, where do you live? Can I email you next entry and have you play with it a while and send it back? Do you have a paypal account, I'd be willing to pay a small fee for this. ROFL
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04/20/2005 10:30:11 PM · #24 |
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04/20/2005 10:47:45 PM · #25 |
| Would anyone be willing to offer a tutorial on PS via a forum thread? I was thinking that everyone could start off with the same raw image and then apply different filters to get different effects. I am having a hard time learning PS and the PS for Dummies book isn't helping much either! |
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