Appeal process for DQ'ed photos...

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

04/01/2005 10:42:55 PM · #1

In light of my recent disqualification (and I'm surprised no one has brought this up before) I would like to recommend that there be an appeal process for reinstatement of disqualified photos. I realize that there are obvious violations of the rules (eg: wrong camera date) but in my case the violation (at least to me and taterbug) is very vague. I think that this would give the alleged violator the opportunity to state there case with examples of other shots (and especially ribbon winners that have been validated) that are similar to theirs.

I would also like to recomend that with the DQ there be a majority and minority statement from site council similar to the US Supreme Court statements that would HOPEFULLY make clear why the photo was DQ'ed and would limit the number of appeals that were made. The seemingly generic message that I recieved with my DQ did not explain to me why my shot was DQ'ed. Instead, it made the situation more vague in my mind...

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

04/01/2005 10:46:57 PM · #2

Sheesh... I'm sorry this happened to you, but it's only a make-believe ribbon... Imagine how much the workload on SC would increase if appeals were allowed... These people have their hands full as it is. If we start allowing appeals, then we run the risk of becoming a litigatory site (I've seen it happen).

Robt.

nico_blue

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

04/01/2005 10:49:47 PM · #3

While I think that sc would probably not be reversing their decision you could email and ask then for clarification and you could also post your before and after in the forums for the benefit of the community.

Message edited by author 2005-04-01 22:50:39.

timj351

Sony DSC-F707

04/01/2005 10:50:43 PM · #4

You always have the option of contacting site council members for further clarification, which you have done. I, personally, am not in favor of some sort of an appeal process because I think we have enough site council members who are giving the images enough time and consideration as it is. However, I wouldn't be opposed to discussing the matter if other site council members wished.

T

Message edited by author 2005-04-01 22:52:02.

BooZon

Canon EOS-20D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

04/01/2005 10:51:16 PM · #5

You have the ability to defend yourself when you submit your original. Once the decision is handed down all information is considered. In my opinion if there is any further information is left to consider after the fact then it's strictly the fault of the photog and the DQ should stand.

04/01/2005 10:51:49 PM · #6

Originally posted by nico_blue:

while im sure that sc would probably not be reversing their decision you could email and ask then for clarification and you could also post in forums for the benefit of the community.

Please see this thread.

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

04/01/2005 10:53:07 PM · #7

Originally posted by timj351:

I've PM'ed you back with further explanation of my side and frustrations...

StevePax

Canon PowerShot S50

04/01/2005 11:51:54 PM · #8

Originally posted by BooZon:

I think the only thing missing is that the site council, when requesting proof, doesn't specifically list the reason that DQ is being considered, so you can offer up whatever you have, but if you knew the reason, at least, you could point evidence that that specific thing. Maybe that's what needs to change.

strangeghost

Canon EOS-7D

04/01/2005 11:53:42 PM · #9

I too think that an appeal process would be going too far. You pays your money and you takes your chances. We all know that the SC has to exercise judgement, and apply the rules as fairly as they can. There will always be ambiguities, and the SC/admins periodically update the rules and take into account member input. That's really all we can ask and it's a good system. I hate to see an image DQ'd, especially when the photographer really thinks the rules were followed, but that's how the system is desiged.

I think you should post your before/after shots and let the discussion begin.

rex

Canon PowerShot SD780

04/02/2005 01:13:12 AM · #10

Originally posted by bear_music:

Couldn't agree with you more.

Message edited by author 2005-04-02 01:14:33.