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03/23/2005 11:35:36 AM · #26 |
straight RAW conversion and saving the 16 bit file from a 1DII gives you a 48Mb tiff file, 24Mb in 8 bit colour. This is without any upsampling.
Requires about a 40% increase in each direction to get to a 48Mb final file in 8bit
Message edited by author 2005-03-23 11:37:00. |
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03/23/2005 11:54:59 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Requirements for file size (excerpt from //www.alamy.com/stock-photography-guide.asp) "48 MB minimum. We strongly recommend that digital camera images are captured on a digital camera capable of producing files of 17MB and upwards."
What kind of camera is capable of that? What is the minimum mp to get there? At 4mp the max file size I get is around 1.4mb. What would a Canon at 8mp get? |
Bear in mind that a 4MP camera actually produces about an 12MB file - 3 colors per pixel, you see. The file size is decreased by JPG compression, but look at the "file size" indication in PSP or PS when the file is open, and you'll see the bigger number. Thus, a 48MB file comes from approximately a 16MP image, which is something around 4613 x 3468, just for pure pixel size.
As for which cams actually produce a file 17MB and upwards, anything over 6MP should do that.
Make any sense? They also insist that Genuine Fractals be used for upsizing, which is ridiculous to me, but maybe they own stock in THAT company - and I don't mean stock photos. :-) |
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03/23/2005 12:02:09 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by nards656:
They also insist that Genuine Fractals be used for upsizing, which is ridiculous to me, but maybe they own stock in THAT company - and I don't mean stock photos. :-) |
I think you may have mis-read the submission guidelines. I couldn't find the word insist anywhere. Here is an actual quote: We recommend Genuine Fractals (//www.lizardtech.com) for the best results.
I had no problems getting them to accept images taken with a 300D and resampled bicubic in one step in Photoshop.
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03/23/2005 12:06:07 PM · #29 |
Learn something new everyday...Thanks Gordon and ganders.
I just played around with saving one of my originals to tiff and it saved at 11mb.
Now to reach the next level. :^) At current pricing (via DPChallenge Pricegrabber):
Canon EOS-20D 8.2MP - $1250+
Canon EOS-1D Mark II 8.2MP - $3680+
...have to keep saving $$$, and of course, keep working on taking better pictures. Guess that's important too eh? :^)
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03/23/2005 12:08:02 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by nards656:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Requirements for file size (excerpt from //www.alamy.com/stock-photography-guide.asp) "48 MB minimum. We strongly recommend that digital camera images are captured on a digital camera capable of producing files of 17MB and upwards."
What kind of camera is capable of that? What is the minimum mp to get there? At 4mp the max file size I get is around 1.4mb. What would a Canon at 8mp get? |
Bear in mind that a 4MP camera actually produces about an 12MB file - 3 colors per pixel, you see. The file size is decreased by JPG compression, but look at the "file size" indication in PSP or PS when the file is open, and you'll see the bigger number. Thus, a 48MB file comes from approximately a 16MP image, which is something around 4613 x 3468, just for pure pixel size.
As for which cams actually produce a file 17MB and upwards, anything over 6MP should do that.
Make any sense? They also insist that Genuine Fractals be used for upsizing, which is ridiculous to me, but maybe they own stock in THAT company - and I don't mean stock photos. :-) |
Oops! Had the Post Reply box open too long while researching my input...
Thanks! :-)
Message edited by author 2005-03-23 12:08:38.
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03/23/2005 12:09:55 PM · #31 |
ok i've had 16 photos pending for almost 4 days now... shutterstock, hello?
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03/23/2005 12:20:39 PM · #32 |
| i just had a quick look at some of the stuff on Alamy, it seems you have to pay them to host your images in order to sell them, does that seem strange or is it just me?? |
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03/23/2005 12:22:56 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by cbonsall:
i just had a quick look at some of the stuff on Alamy, it seems you have to pay them to host your images in order to sell them, does that seem strange or is it just me?? |
Just you. Where did you get that? You all make stuff up as you go.
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03/23/2005 12:26:58 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by cbonsall:
i just had a quick look at some of the stuff on Alamy, it seems you have to pay them to host your images in order to sell them, does that seem strange or is it just me?? |
Just you. Where did you get that? You all make stuff up as you go. |
//www.alamy.com/royalty-free-images-terms.asp
and from the FAQs:
//www.alamy.com/stock-photography-faqs-finance.asp#4
How much is the storage fee?
The storage fee is 10 cents ($0.10) per image per month or part thereof. It is charged for all the images you have in the catalogue once they have been uploaded to our site.
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03/23/2005 12:32:17 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by cbonsall:
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by cbonsall:
i just had a quick look at some of the stuff on Alamy, it seems you have to pay them to host your images in order to sell them, does that seem strange or is it just me?? |
Just you. Where did you get that? You all make stuff up as you go. |
//www.alamy.com/royalty-free-images-terms.asp
and from the FAQs:
//www.alamy.com/stock-photography-faqs-finance.asp#4
How much is the storage fee?
The storage fee is 10 cents ($0.10) per image per month or part thereof. It is charged for all the images you have in the catalogue once they have been uploaded to our site. |
So you're just going to pick out parts that fit your argument and delete the rest?
I am on the Alamy Blue commission option, will I be charged Storage Fees?
Fees are only charged for contributors who are on the Alamy Red and Alamy Green commission options.
There is a very big difference between can and have to.
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03/23/2005 12:44:31 PM · #36 |
| what/who makes the determination between green & blue? |
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03/23/2005 12:50:36 PM · #37 |
nsbca7 how many photos do you have at alamy? How long and have you made any money from it?
Just wondering if it is a real option?
Also I think the initial submission is via CD/DVD with 10-15 images once they have been accepted can you submit online?
Thanks in advance for the info.
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03/23/2005 12:51:18 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by skiprow:
what/who makes the determination between green & blue? |
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Alamy Blue
You receive 65% of the sale and Alamy receive 35%. There are no other fees associated with submitting or storing your images.
Alamy Green
You receive 75% of the sale and Alamy receive 25%. You are also charged 10 cents per image per month storage fee for all images you have with Alamy.
Alamy Red
This scheme was in place up to May 2002 you receive 85% of the sale and Alamy receive 15%. In addition for each image submitted there is a $2 charge, you are also charged 10 cents per image per month storage fee for all images you have with Alamy. "
But once again the question remains, does anyone here use alamy or ever sold an image on alamy? they have a $250 dollar payment minimum... seems you could be waiting for years to clear that imo.
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03/23/2005 12:51:25 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by ganders:
An uncropped image from my 20D saves out to a 24Mb tiff. |
Do you have the option of taking the photo in TIFF or is that after you convert? I can only choose jpg and raw |
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03/23/2005 12:53:21 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by skiprow:
what/who makes the determination between green & blue? |
You make the choice. If you select the Blue plan, you get 65% commision but pay no fees. If you select the Green plan you get 75% commision but pay storage fees.
One downside to Alamy is that they have a huge inventory due to people submitting images without "self editing" (i.e. crap), so you feel like a needle in a haystack (pick one of your keywords and see how many others pop-up). But in the last Alamy newsletter it sounds like they are going to tighten up a bit.
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03/23/2005 12:55:01 PM · #41 |
You do. Green pays the photographer a higher percentage, but has a per image storage fee. Blue still pays a better percentage then the industry standard but has no fees. Green pays the photographer 75% of the sale and blue pays %65.
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03/23/2005 12:55:25 PM · #42 |
also, once you're accepted, are there any production requirements (ie, 50 images/month)?
Message edited by author 2005-03-23 12:55:47. |
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03/23/2005 12:56:05 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by nico_blue:
But once again the question remains, does anyone here use alamy or ever sold an image on alamy? they have a $250 dollar payment minimum... seems you could be waiting for years to clear that imo. |
I just joined up with them with my initial submission and working on sending another batch in. I'll try to remember to post here if/when I make a sale.
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03/23/2005 01:01:01 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by nico_blue:
[quote=skiprow]
But once again the question remains, does anyone here use alamy or ever sold an image on alamy? they have a $250 dollar payment minimum... seems you could be waiting for years to clear that imo. |
I don't see that. If you sell one or two images through Alamy that will probably put you over the $250 mark. I've done some research into Alamy and they seem to be thriving at the moment, and the only way they can be doing well is by selling images. I haven't had anything up long enough to worry about selling or not selling any of my images just yet.
And for anyone who is complaining that it sometimes takes long to get your images approved at Shutterstock, Alamy is definatly not for you. It often takes over a week for the images to even get to their office in England, and another 2 weeks for them to upload. I don't see this as a problem, but anyone with any patience about their work would probably never submit images to Shutterstock to begin with.
I hope a few of the better photographers on this site would look into Alamy (or other agencies) because I would love to have my images in the company of yours. All you need is a 6Mp or better camera, a CD or DVD burner, and a little patience.
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03/23/2005 01:02:09 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by skiprow:
also, once you're accepted, are there any production requirements (ie, 50 images/month)? |
No.
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03/23/2005 01:03:58 PM · #46 |
| thanks for the reply, thanks for doing the homework. good luck! |
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03/23/2005 01:11:33 PM · #47 |
Nsbca7,
Have you joined the Alamy Pro yahoo group? It's only for Alamy contributers and has some good info. Check it out:
//groups.yahoo.com/group/AlamyPro/
You may also want to check out the stockphoto group:
//groups-beta.google.com/group/bit.listproc.stockphoto
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03/23/2005 02:57:03 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by colyla:
Originally posted by ganders:
An uncropped image from my 20D saves out to a 24Mb tiff. |
Do you have the option of taking the photo in TIFF or is that after you convert? I can only choose jpg and raw |
No, that was converting a raw file and saving it out from Photoshop. Of course, if I'd had my brain engaged then i could have just multiplied 8mp by 3 but I did it the hard way :-)
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03/23/2005 04:52:10 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by dogz:
Nsbca7,
Have you joined the Alamy Pro yahoo group? It's only for Alamy contributers and has some good info. Check it out:
//groups.yahoo.com/group/AlamyPro/ |
Thanks for the link.
Message edited by author 2005-03-23 16:53:04.
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03/23/2005 06:07:53 PM · #50 |
| As Deapee suspected, I have removed the post from shutterstock and the response from deapee. I see no reason for private communication to be dragged back onto the site, especially without the permission of the author. Please take your personal issues with each other elsewhere. |
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