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03/18/2005 09:14:35 AM · #26 |
Originally posted by bod:
Originally posted by Gordon:
If it rains, take some trash bags, poke a hole in the bottom and stick the lens through. |
Add an elastic band to hold it on, especially if it gets windy. |
I tend to steal shower caps from every hotel I stay in. Clear plastic bag, built in elastic band... |
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03/18/2005 11:31:01 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by deapee:
Originally posted by coolhar:
If you have enough light, I'd say use shutter priority and set you shutter speed to at least 200 or 250 to "stop the action".
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1/200 isn't really quick enough with a 300mm lens on there (480mm equiv. on the rebel). If you're set at 1/200 and the sun pops out, you might be shooting at f9.0 or something -- whereas if you were in aperture mode, at say 5.6 or whatever your lens allows, it might have just jumped up to 1/1000 or whatever instead. I always shoot in Av when I'm doing stuff like that then pay close attention to the shutter speed, adjust the ISO as needed -- just my reasoning behind why...not saying my way's the best way, just explaining why I said Av :-) |
I agree with your thinking. My 200-250 was intended as a minimum needed to get shots with little or no motion blur. If you're zoomed to 300mm, you'll need it to be faster, unless you have an exceptionally steady grip. And of course you must keep an eye on changing light conditions. Faster shutter speeds are better if the light improves. I think of it as constantly adjusting shutter speed, aperture, and ISO to keep your images in the zone where there is no motion blur and desired background blur. And suemack should not be hesitant to use higher ISO settings. Noise/grain is more tolerable in a sports shot for a newspaper than it would be for a dpc challenge shot. Also, when shooting for a newspaper you don't need to think in terms of large prints. The Rebel's files can be cropped some and still be big enough. This gives the shooter a little more latitude in zooming and framing.
I'm still learning, and my current mindset is geared to indoor, low light situations. Can't wait for the weather to warm and spring sports to get going. It'll be nice to move back outdoors and work with more light.
Looking forward to seeing some rugby shots after the weekend.
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03/18/2005 12:05:53 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by blemt:
Question- do those of you shooting sports shoot RAW or JPEG? |
ALWAYS jpg. There's no way I could wait around for the camera to save RAW shots in that kind of volume, and it would be hugely prohibitive, memory-wise.
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03/18/2005 12:33:50 PM · #29 |
Thanks so much.....you guys are just so awesome! It's 6am and dawn is beginning to break on (so far) a clear day :))))
Instead of sitting round worrying will charge up all batteries, clear memory cards, get everything ready.....then go catch what looks like a million guppies and take them into the petshop. My fishtanks are getting considerably overcrowded!!
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03/18/2005 12:44:46 PM · #30 |
Hey Sue.. Good luck & have fun.
Absolutley LOVE those 4x4 shots! They are outstanding & funny. |
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03/19/2005 07:02:13 AM · #31 |
Well, I survived (had fun even), it didn't rain (was steaming hot), and a 300mm lens isn't quite long enough for a rugby pitch. They're ok, but could have done better. rugby
Next match is a night match, 8pm Thurs. Even with the stadium flood lights not sure there'll be enough light for photos.
The paper is running a monthly rugby edition and a few of the photos will be going in that.
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03/19/2005 07:14:39 AM · #32 |
The girl did good :)
Well done Sue, I think the 'jumpy thing' shots are best, you stopped the motion well and have some nice action shots. My only worry is that the bg is too infocus but that can be sorted easily in ps.
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03/19/2005 07:16:03 AM · #33 |
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03/19/2005 07:21:23 AM · #34 |
dang...looks like you didn't take my advice and shoot in Av mode. Did you just pick the shutterspeed and let the camera choose the aperture for you? That's probably why the background is not blurred that much. Oh well, there's always a next time.
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03/19/2005 07:29:31 AM · #35 |
I think I liked 6 and 12 best as shots. I love watching rugby. :) Which lens were you using? And which camera settings did you start off with? This is a great beginning. :) You got a pretty good feel for getting to where the action is. Nice job!
Clara
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03/19/2005 07:52:48 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by deapee:
dang...looks like you didn't take my advice and shoot in Av mode. Did you just pick the shutterspeed and let the camera choose the aperture for you? That's probably why the background is not blurred that much. Oh well, there's always a next time. |
My Av and TV modes on the camera aren't good, comes out really dark. Appears to be camera fault. I've talked to the shop, they seem to think it needs to go back to Canon for assessment. Also, when I got to the match everything you'd said blew away with the breeze.....first time nerves. I'll remember next time!! How do I deal with the night match?
Clara....I've got a 90-300mm 4.5-5.6 USM lens. Mostly used manual or sports mode. In manual F9, 7 would have been better. As deapee says....there's always the next time.
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03/19/2005 08:01:37 AM · #37 |
You might want to try sports mode. First, that will yield the fastest shutter speed possible -- it will set your aperture really wide and get you the DOF you're looking for. You'll get AI servo -- where the focus will track the subject, then just fire the shutter button. Also, it uses center-weighted metering -- which means that anything near the ends of the frame won't matter as much for exposure as much as the subject that is in the center. All that just from selecting sports mode.
Good luck. I'd like to see a tighter composition -- really get in there -- or wait until the action comes to you.
Like this...
//www.dpchallenge.com/portfolio.php?USER_ID=3102
All of those were taken on a field probably bigger than the rugby field you were on...and with a 200mm lens ;-) Alan is the man, sure, but it shows that it can be done with smaller than what you have.
Keep shooting.
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03/19/2005 08:09:29 AM · #38 |
Originally posted by Ecce Signum:
My only worry is that the bg is too infocus but that can be sorted easily in ps. |
Just don't do anything like that for something that's going to get used by the paper. In general, sports shooting is treated like photojournalism, so these sorts of postfixes are really frowned upon, ethically.
Av mode, with careful exposure compensation is a good way to go.
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03/19/2005 08:10:18 AM · #39 |
Thanks Dave. Will put a link up to the next match.
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03/19/2005 08:10:33 AM · #40 |
My advice to you is if your gonna shoot a shot gun competitiion then don't be the target and make sure you stand well clear. lol
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