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03/02/2005 01:25:54 AM · #1 |
OK, here is my question. I happen to live in San Diego, so for me it would be really easy to drive a few blocks to La Jolla, and take a photo of a Scripps pier which would be quite similar to this one
(ok maybe a bit different sky, but still).
But would it be a good idea? Personally, I'd rather shoot something different in style of Mr.Adams, but since we enter to win (aren't we?), what do you think would score higher - a photo in Adams style or a re-make of an Adams photo?
Message edited by author 2005-03-02 01:26:08. |
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03/02/2005 01:36:04 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by ltsimring:
what do you think would score higher - a photo in Adams style or a re-make of an Adams photo? |
Easy .... whichever is the best photo.
The majority of people would not recognise a reporduction of this photo as being a re-make of a specific photo anyway. They would look, like/dislike the photo and vote accordingly.
Personally though, I think you should do the one YOU want to do, rather than just aim for a score, as in the end taking the photo you want may well result in the better photo anyway.
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03/02/2005 01:36:35 AM · #3 |
It's an interesting question. Personally I'd score a loving recreation of an AA original very high, as an homage to the artist. I'd want to see it framed from exactly the same vantage point, but with enough subtle differences to make it your own. I'd definitely want to see people in the low foreground.
It reminds me of an interesting thing that happened once when I was with Ansel. He was at our house for dinner, along with the Weston brothers and Morley Baer, if I recall correctly, and I was showing some images to them, including a 16x20 of Point Sur from up the coast to the north, in the clearing aftermath of a storm. Ansel did a double-take, and sent one of the other guests back across the canyon to his house to get one of his images, circa 1957 I believe, somewhere back there.
We examined the 2 images closely, and compared etch notes; they were both shot with 4x5 pan-x film, both with a 90mm Schneider lens, and they framing was absolutely identical. Both were full-frame, uncropped images as well. Ansel remarked that we may well have had our tripod feet in the exact same places on the earth, they were so close.
As it happened, everyone agreed mine was the stronger image, largely because I had a much more dramatic light situation than he had encountered 25 years before. The final leg of the story is that a couple weeks later Monterey Life Magazine called Ansel and asked for permission to use that image in the magazine for an article on the Big Sur Conservancy, and he told them they should call me, I had a better one. So they did, and used it. My moment of fame :-)
But that's a digression. I wouldn't hesitate to do a homage to this fine image. I myself shot one back in the early 80's, when I was still living in San Diego, I don't know what's become of it though. I lost all my archives in a basement flood.
Robt.
Message edited by author 2005-03-02 01:39:03.
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03/02/2005 01:40:29 AM · #4 |
| Being original and risk taking is what made Ansel Adams a success. Duplicating his photo is not unique. Enter to win with some other dramatic black and white imagery. You have the camera, and you have the locale, unlike many others who are digging out of snow. Good Luck. |
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03/02/2005 01:42:40 AM · #5 |
[begin thread hijack]
Robert, you seem to have had some wonderful experiences in your life. I've enjoyed reading your observations in several threads and I envy you that you've met such an inspiring person to me and I'm sure many many others.
Keep on keepin' on... :-)
[/End hijack]
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03/02/2005 01:43:47 AM · #6 |
Don't do it...(cause that's what I was going to do...I just became a member at Birch Aquarium last week)...kidding.
But I do know what you mean...got my 2005 Ansel Adams calendar right next to me...thinking it would be somewhat easy to recreate a lot of those shots (scenery and settings)
...Then again something else tells me to go different but in the Style of Adams.
If you try to recreate an Ansel Adams you will be compared to the original...If you try something different than you will be compared to the style...I think it's safer to go the style route.
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03/02/2005 01:56:24 AM · #7 |
Robert, how wide is 90 on a 4x5? I used to know all that, and I guess i could look it up, but you're right here, so... About 17mm or 20mm on a 35?
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03/02/2005 01:59:21 AM · #8 |
About 28mm on a 35 mm camera.
Robt.
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03/02/2005 02:00:56 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
About 28mm on a 35 mm camera.
Robt. |
Cool. Thanks.
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03/02/2005 02:17:23 AM · #10 |
Oh man you guys are killing me!!
The one challenge I have been waiting for and I'm going ot be out of town watching my son and the rest of the wrestling team at the State finals this weekend up in Bakersfield.
Oh this hurts!
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03/02/2005 02:19:45 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
About 28mm on a 35 mm camera.
Robt. |
man i need a 90mm sooo bad but its 200+$, i'm stuck with this dangpress lens (135mm) on my "pressman" 4x5 and it stinks just when i've got the right scen i can't fit it in.........
also while i'm complaining the digital back for my pressman is made but i found out to day that it cost a wopping $45,000
and there is a guy who will lease it to me but he wants 2000 + insurence......damn
so much for using the good'ol 4x5 for this challenge and just when i got my hopes up......
(btw the digital back is a wopping 20mp its on par with the hassablad (sp) 1s)
_bran(i want it i want it iwant it)do_
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03/02/2005 02:24:51 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by BradP:
Oh man you guys are killing me!!
The one challenge I have been waiting for and I'm going ot be out of town watching my son and the rest of the wrestling team at the State finals this weekend up in Bakersfield.
Oh this hurts! |
just stay up and go some place pretty at 4am today
thats what i'm doing
and then i'm doing it the next day and maybe i'll get to a forest preserve sometime to.....
but u have a car i have a 7lb. husky tripod from the late 70s and a d70 in a cheepo camera bag......
oh yeah did i mention I BIKE EVERYWHERE I GO TO TAKE SHOTS!!!!
don't complain could be worse
_brando_
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03/02/2005 06:44:56 AM · #13 |
| My advice is do anything...A.N.Y.T.H.I.N.G.....to win Challenges. Conscience and integrity are for losers. Destroy all opposition. Just my humble opinion. |
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