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02/28/2005 09:20:59 AM · #51 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Originally posted by hyperfocal:
Your right, he did much more than just landscapes. Besides Moonrise one of the photos that come to mind when I think of Adams is a 35mm portrait of Georgia O'Keeffe.
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Ever wonder why he did that portrait? ;) |
...probably wanted to impress Mr. Georgia O'Keefe (Alfred Stieglitz)..;-)
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02/28/2005 09:21:50 AM · #52 |
He has also shot some beach scenes in Black And White.
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02/28/2005 09:24:23 AM · #53 |
Originally posted by hopper:
Originally posted by coolhar:
with a big advantage going to people who live near the Adams-style majestic landscapes. |
surely there's a tree standing by itself near you. for the most part, i don't like ansel's stuff at all, but i think finding subject matter should be fairly easy to do (even though we don't all live near halfdome). |
However you slice it, the quintesential landscape locations Adams is best known for will do the best. But do yourselves a favour and look at his other work as well.
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02/28/2005 11:35:16 AM · #54 |
Research is the key to have a pic on his style!
I'm thinking of the perfect scenario for my picture! Just about 1 hour drive from my city! It's going to "rock"!
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02/28/2005 11:48:25 AM · #55 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by lentil:
I am ashamed to say i have never heard of him |
You should be. I'm sure that if I wanted to be a detective I would know who Sherlock Holmes was. |
LOL whatever man. The most well known artists in the their genre most likely didn't give a crap about who came before them. Do you think Beethoven remotely cared what other composers did? If anything their stuff probably irritated him. |
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02/28/2005 12:09:17 PM · #56 |
| I have to say that I love this challenge idea, and we're getting a lot of snow today. |
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02/28/2005 12:16:18 PM · #57 |
Originally posted by lentil:
so i am guessing he did landscape photography? I am ashamed to say i have never heard of him |
Don't be ashamed at all. You, along with many others around the world, shouldn't be made to feel inept by not knowing who he is since you aren't from around here. It's an opportunity to learn about his particular style and genre if anything else. Enjoy shooting for this one; I'm sitting it out unless I get the opportunity to travel to a mountain range this week. LOL ;o)
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02/28/2005 12:21:21 PM · #58 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by lentil:
I am ashamed to say i have never heard of him |
You should be. I'm sure that if I wanted to be a detective I would know who Sherlock Holmes was. |
Obviously Ansel's PR is not as effective overseas.
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02/28/2005 12:24:08 PM · #59 |
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by lentil:
I am ashamed to say i have never heard of him |
You should be. I'm sure that if I wanted to be a detective I would know who Sherlock Holmes was. |
LOL whatever man. The most well known artists in the their genre most likely didn't give a crap about who came before them. Do you think Beethoven remotely cared what other composers did? If anything their stuff probably irritated him. |
Yes, actually I do think Beethoven studied the works of other artists and I can't see how it would of irritated him as he was deaf. The most well known artists in their genre have studied their predecessors and contemporaries well. Not necessarily to copy from them, but to learn. If this were not the case we would still be drawing stick figures on the walls of caves.
"If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants."
- Sir Isaac Newton
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02/28/2005 12:31:14 PM · #60 |
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
LOL whatever man. The most well known artists in the their genre most likely didn't give a crap about who came before them. Do you think Beethoven remotely cared what other composers did? If anything their stuff probably irritated him. |
I would guess that you are waaayyy wrong. Most artists that are any good study those who came before them. As far as Beethoven
In 1787 Beethoven traveled to Vienna, Austria to study and play music. He hoped to study under Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, but Beethoven̢۪s mother became ill and he returned to Bonn. Shortly after his return, Beethoven̢۪s mother died. Beethoven̢۪s father was now unable to care for the family so Beethoven took over, caring for his two younger brothers and his father.
Eventually Beethoven did return to Vienna, in 1792, the same year that his father died. So Beethoven̢۪s two brothers joined him in Vienna. Mozart had died, but Beethoven was given the opportunity to study with Joseph Haydn in 1793. Only one year after beginning his studies Beethoven began to loose his hearing.
I you want to re-invent the wheel fine, but most masters study at the feet of other masters before they become great. Of course most duffers like me prefer to putter on their own purely for their own enjoymant, without serious study because it isn't as much fun as splashing about in the shallow end of the pool.
PS for those who don't belive in study, Mozart and Hayden are like way famous music writting dudes.
Message edited by author 2005-02-28 12:35:54. |
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02/28/2005 12:34:52 PM · #61 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by lentil:
I am ashamed to say i have never heard of him |
You should be. I'm sure that if I wanted to be a detective I would know who Sherlock Holmes was. |
Obviously Ansel's PR is not as effective overseas. |
I think you are probably mistaken. Do you know who Henri Cartier-Bresson is? Is that a French thing or an photography thing? Adams was one of the forefathers of modern photography as was Bresson and to think their influence is shackled by seas or national borders is to lack understanding of how photography as art has evolved.
I can't imagine a descent living poet who isn't at least familiar with the works of Burns, Frost or Dickinson.
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02/28/2005 12:36:44 PM · #62 |
Hey nsbca. What happened to your camera?
Message edited by author 2005-02-28 12:37:03.
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02/28/2005 12:37:52 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by rex07734:
Hey nsbca. What happened to your camera? |
Sold them. New one on the way. (I hope)
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02/28/2005 12:40:48 PM · #64 |
I would start having withdrawals if I didn't have a camera. Hopefully it will get to you quickly.
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02/28/2005 12:42:30 PM · #65 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by lentil:
I am ashamed to say i have never heard of him |
You should be. I'm sure that if I wanted to be a detective I would know who Sherlock Holmes was. |
Obviously Ansel's PR is not as effective overseas. |
I think you are probably mistaken. Do you know who Henri Cartier-Bresson is? Is that a French thing or an photography thing? Adams was one of the forefathers of modern photography as was Bresson and to think their influence is shackled by seas or national borders is to lack understanding of how photography as art has evolved.
I can't imagine a descent living poet who isn't at least familiar with the works of Burns, Frost or Dickinson. |
Of course I'm familar with Cartier-Bresson.
Adams was a very good photographer, so were many of his contemporaries. One of the main reasons Ansel Adams is such a familiar name is not because his work so exceeds that of his contemporaries, but rather that he hired a very good publicist to promote his name and work outside the photography/art world.
Message edited by author 2005-02-28 12:44:07.
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02/28/2005 12:50:50 PM · #66 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
PS for those who don't belive in study, Mozart and Hayden are like way famous music writting dudes. |
Ah, you mean like Stock, Aitken and Waterman?
So the argument seems to be that everybody should know and study Adams because he's famous in North America? Therefore all singers should study Bintey Spears? Yes?
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02/28/2005 12:53:14 PM · #67 |
You know, all this time I thought Ansel Adams was some actor in the 30s!
June
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02/28/2005 12:56:13 PM · #68 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Adams was a very good photographer, so were many of his contemporaries. One of the main reasons Ansel Adams is such a familiar name is not because his work so exceeds that of his contemporaries, but rather that he hired a very good publicist to promote his name and work outside the photography/art world. |
Cream has a tendency to rise to the top. The best publicists in the world couldn't have kept Adam's work hanging in prominent positions in the best museums in every industrialized nation on this planet for more then 50 - 70 years after they were created.
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02/28/2005 12:56:21 PM · #69 |
I was being facetious.
Good ol' Ansel did some great stuff but I'm not about to put down other people for not knowing it. I'm sure there are great artists/politicians/doctors that aren't known by us all, that doesn't mean we're all idiots.
"Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones".
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02/28/2005 12:57:47 PM · #70 |
Originally posted by bod:
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
PS for those who don't belive in study, Mozart and Hayden are like way famous music writting dudes. |
Ah, you mean like Stock, Aitken and Waterman?
So the argument seems to be that everybody should know and study Adams because he's famous in North America? Therefore all singers should study Bintey Spears? Yes? |
I don't guess you well understand North American English because that is far from what I said.
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02/28/2005 12:59:15 PM · #71 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Cream has a tendency to rise to the top. |
I play the Britney Spears card again :P
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02/28/2005 01:00:56 PM · #72 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
I don't guess you well understand North American English because that is far from what I said. |
I don't guess I well don't because that sentance doesn't make much sense.
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
Good ol' Ansel did some great stuff but I'm not about to put down other people for not knowing it. I'm sure there are great artists/politicians/doctors that aren't known by us all, that doesn't mean we're all idiots. |
Exactly.
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02/28/2005 01:04:53 PM · #73 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Yes, actually I do think Beethoven studied the works of other artists and I can't see how it would of irritated him as he was deaf. |
Beethoven didn't become deaf until near the end of his career, and it was a progressive degeneration. When he was learning, I'm sure hos hearing was quite normal.
No one learns to play music, much less compose it, with learning/studying the work of those who came before. This is somewhat less necessary in the visual arts, as painting and drawing don't have to fit into the same kind of rigid container, formed by the instruments and notation, as most music does. |
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02/28/2005 01:04:59 PM · #74 |
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02/28/2005 01:05:12 PM · #75 |
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
I was being facetious.
Good ol' Ansel did some great stuff but I'm not about to put down other people for not knowing it. I'm sure there are great artists/politicians/doctors that aren't known by us all, that doesn't mean we're all idiots.
"Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones". |
I didn't call her an idiot. But if you were to aspire to become a great painter or sculptor then I would expect at some point in your life you would become quite familier with Donatelo and Michelangelo. (not ninja turtles)
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